Cerberus: June 8 marks the end of the Corbyn experiment

In the end, she was the only woman left standing. Over the Easter weekend, Mrs May called in to Downing Street her senior Cabinet  colleagues. David Davis, Philip Hammond and Boris Johnson echoed the views of her inner sanctum – call an election now, destroy Labour and secure the majority you need to complete the Brexit revolution.

May had resisted to the end. Her innate caution and obstinacy trumping the evident attractions of cashing in on a 20-point opinion poll lead and a spatchcocked Labour party led by its least credible leader since the end of the war. Even Michael Foot had more popular appeal (and certainly gravitas) than the perpetual protester of Parliament Square. May will emerge from the carnage of June 8 with a majority approaching 100 and with a mandate to do pretty much what she pleases over Brexit and much more.

As for David Cameron’s much vaunted, uber-PC Fixed Term Parliaments Act, pretentiously designed to curb the power of cynical politicians (quite unlike Dave and George), that has evaporated faster than a Nick Clegg manifesto pledge. Old-fashioned power politics has triumphed once more.

So May bowed to the primeval forces that shape every administration. She was persuaded she could find a sufficiently high-minded form of words to erase previous promises to soldier on to 2020 with a tiny majority, which put her at constant risk of defeat and humiliation. She has, of course, made the right call. And she was perfectly entitled to insist that her courtiers first made the case for the queen of all U-turns. Only the leftists of the BBC are making a fuss about her switch and even that won’t last more than a few days.

Cerberus predicted a month ago that there would be an early election – in 2018 – because the PM’s in-tray was too daunting to survive her paltry majority. She has, in the end, chosen not to risk the erosion of her authority through a year’s trench warfare over the Great Repeal Bill and related legislation.

What now? One thing can be predicted with certainty. Jeremy Corbyn will no longer be Labour leader after the middle of June. His party will pay a dreadful price for his inability to read the political runes, his 1970s intransigence, his lack of imagination, his failure to inspire and connect with the common people. Labour still has its blasted citadels, but they are fewer. It could lose 50 seats and be reduced to a rump of 180 MPs, implying a decade-long exile from power, even obliteration. The next Prime Minister (after Mrs May) will be a Conservative.

As for a replacement, we will have to endure the reign of another nonentity before he (or she/it) gives way to a Labour leader who realises the job is to reflect the hopes and fears of the great mass of ordinary people who form the backbone of the country – ie the multitudes who don’t live in Islington or Hackney, survive on vegetables, ride bicycles and sport beards.

With the election won and a comfortable majority established, the vicar’s daughter can get on with the job in hand. Brexit will be delivered – on time and to budget – though a big majority will allow her the luxury of facing down the harder-edged Brexiteers in her ranks – a gamble she should not push too far.

As for the rest of her agenda, still glimpsed only dimly through the clouded glass of her chronic hesitancy, that plays second fiddle to the historic EU farewell of 2019. Talk of a “shared society” remains just that – talk – and as Laura Perrins pointed out here yesterday, the grammar school revival has been already hijacked by the Left. Harold Wilson, speaking of comprehensives, promised a grammar school education for all in the 1960s. Mrs May, speaking of grammars, promises a comprehensive school education for all (because that is what you get when you set entry quotas based in income).

Radical reforming ideas are out there – not least a genuine post-Brexit bonfire of business taxes and regulation and a Singapore-style economic liberalisation – but they will have to wait for the rise of a new generation of free market Conservatives unconstrained by the party’s timid orthodoxies and unafraid of the poor opinion of the state broadcaster and its blinkered, pinko legions.

But give her her due. One thing at a time. Women may be famed for multi-tasking but Mrs May does one thing at a time. A clean, swift Brexit should be her legacy and who can cavil at that? Afterwards, we can get down to some real politics.

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  • Bik Byro

    “June 8 marks the end of the Corbyn experiment” But does it ?

    Momentum will still have a strong grip on the labour party after June 8th and it is not inconceivable that Corbyn will be replaced with someone as equally if not more loony leftie.

    Or maybe Corbyn will stand down – there will be a leadership election – Jeremy will stand in it – and win again!

    • MacGuffin

      I really don’t understand why people assume Corbyn will step down after the defeat. His people won’t allow it. They’ve got hold of one of the great parties and they won’t let a mere catastrophic defeat loosen their grip.

  • When he becomes Prime Minister?

    • Andrew Briggs

      Such dry wit – well done.

  • The Sage

    As much as I may wish to above to happen, it will be interesting to re-read this article on 9 June, 9 July and again in a year from now and to see how much of the above turns out to be spot on. Sadly, I willing to bet that it won’t be 100% accurate.

  • Stuart Fairney

    Chukka yesterday branded Mrs May a dictator for calling an election (sic). And they wonder why people regard them as inconsequential, perennially in-fighting, clueless buffoons who seem to think it’s 1974.

  • Paul Williams

    Don’t understimate Corbyn’s obstinate stupidity. He will cling on, at least until he can get the party voting rules changed to guarantee further extremists can be elected leader. His project was never anything to do with winning general elections, because as thick as he is, even he knows he could not be a PM. He can’t even cope with gentle questioning from reporters.

    If he gets his way, Labour will split, and they will be out of power, maybe permanently.

  • Calvin Graham

    The Corbyn “experiment” was a scientific experiment in the same way that my student “experiments” of mixing red with with Ouzo or the like were. I expect Corbyn will be encouraged to stand and subsequently win the subsequent leadership challenge, splitting the party permanently. Bizarre as it sounds, I imagine that by the time the year is out the leader of the Opposition will be Angus Robertson or possibly even Tim Farron if enough Labour MPs defect.

    My cartoon on the start of the election:

    • Ian Walker

      Hypothesis: A 70s-style leftie is not electable in 2017
      Apparatus: a 70s-style leftie, some entryist supporters, a country having an election
      Experiment: Have a 70s-style leftie as a candidate for PM in an election in 2017
      Expected outcome: Electoral failure

      Conclusion: pending

    • Very good, loved the jokes

    • Kathy Gyngell

      Very clever! worth watching everyone!

  • JohnInCambridge

    This article is tempting providence. I know it’s a stretch to imagine Mrs May failing to get an increased majority but then, it was a stretch to imagine that Project Fear would fail last June. All too many Tory MPs were loud remainers including mine and she won’t be getting my vote in June.

    • Mike Hunt

      I certainly think it could go badly wrong, the Lib Dems, Greens , Labour and SNP will have a field day on BBC and Sky , they can promise the earth , and they will certainly try and mine the 48%of remainers . It will in a sense be almost a 2nd referendum, back me if you want me to keep going ahead with Brexit!

    • John C

      I would go further and say that this article is ignorant, stupid and childish.

  • May’s already done better than I expected her to, so yeah let’s not expect too much. But the leftist blob hasn’t gone away so once the EU is in the dustbin of history, let’s turn to them, the next great threat to freedom, and crush them.

  • Nockian

    How easy it is to sprinkle partisanship on the simple fools.

    Doesn’t anyone see through it ? Do you realise this is a sham. That Corbyn and May are reading from the same script ?

    May has called this election because the economy has failed to crash and the media have been unable to convince people that it’s crashing because we voted to leave the EU.

    We aren’t getting out. We are going back to square one but this time without that stupid give away referendum that Cameron promised and was forced to fulfill, then tried to con us with his big negotiation, then tried scaring us stupid with operation fear.

    Ms May never wanted to leave and Corbyn has no intention of being PM. All he wants is to extract concessions from May as to how the new relationship with Europe will look and what Corbyn’s position will be in the altered power structure.

    Look at Mays speech, her and Corbyn and to an extent Sturgeon are all on the same side. It’s a pantomime stitch up. A vote for May is a vote to stay in the EU and so is a vote for any other party, except for UKIP which has managed to blow its own foot off through thinking it had won.

    May has pushed the ‘good deal’ line for a full year so that people have come to believe the referendum was actually about renegotiating our position with the EU. Article 50 has been held up as the head of Europe carried by the PM, but it’s nothing of the sort, it doesn’t mean we are leaving, it means that the elite believe they have strengthened their bargaining position and can come back with much more than Cameron offered. We have simply upped the anti. A full year has gone by and the promise to leave has been abandoned.

    A vote for May will be the end of the lie that we were getting out. We aren’t. The election and its winners and losers is a side show distraction, a carnival, a show. I can’t stop people voting and it looks very much like things have been sewn up from the Labour side- they should have opposed the election leaving May stuck with the task of pretending to implement A50 whilst simultaneously failing to do so and creating havoc in her party. I’m afraid May and Corbyn are in agreement on this, it suits the Blairites, the Mandelsons and Blair himself.

    “When the smoke cleared we realised we had not won as much ground as we had thought. We had moved, that was certain, but the enemy now held as much new ground of ours as we held of his”

    • Fubar2

      Interesting theory. It wouldnt surprise me, really it wouldnt.

      • Tom Richardson

        I’d say it’s more probable than the prospect of Theresa May leading Britain away from the EU. We could end up with Brexit-in-name-only, in the sense that we no longer remain as an EU member, with a government than aligns its policies to those of the EU, rather than the wishes of the UK electorate.

        I hope I’m wrong, she might pleasantly surprise us by decisively acting upon the will of the people.

        • TheRightToArmBears

          Our best hope is that the French elect Marine Le Pin. A faint hope but more certain than May.

          • Tom Richardson

            Charlie Hebdo, The Bataclan, Nice…

            God help France if they don’t elect Le Pen!

    • TheRightToArmBears

      Labour were against the EU until they were persuaded that, though they’d never get their hard socialism through the FPTP elections here, they’d get it via Brussels and the EU.
      This is why Corbyn has been diametrically against Labour he will now be persuaded to keep going after socialism goals by keeping us in the EU.
      May is and always has been a remainer. That’s why the Tories sent Carswell to bu&&er up UKIP, the only party that is really against the EU.

  • Fubar2

    “hey will have to wait for the rise of a new generation of free market Conservatives unconstrained by the party’s timid orthodoxies and unafraid of the poor opinion of the state broadcaster and its blinkered, pinko legions.”

    Yep. As it stands at the moment, she is the least worst option. Pity that UKIP cant get their act together.

  • Snoffle Gronch

    I have grown very attached to Mr Corbyn, and would be sorry to see him step down.

    • He’s been the gift that’s kept on giving.

    • guestwho2

      If Labour could piece together their ideal leader he would look and act very much like Corbyn: scruffy, slovenly, plastic prole, ideologically pure however irrational, and an anti-patriot who imagines schoolboy rudeness is a clever, subtle form of protest.

      They got their dream Labourite and he’s a laughing stock.

  • Derek

    The Labour leader is elected by the £3 voters who are well left of the average UK voter. If Corbyn steps down they will elect another from the far left. The result will be no change in the electability of the Labour party. Fabians reckon there are around 140-150 safe seats and Corbyn could score not many more seats than this.
    The public don’t care which left leader is chosen. Witness the succession of left leaders on offer to the public during the wilderness years – all rejected by the public.

    • John C

      Err, plenty of £3 voters were Tory and UKIP voters who voted for him as a joke at the expense of Labour.

  • This will be the sixth General Election in which I shall have voted, but the first of those to have been worth holding on the basis of any policy difference between the parties. The biggest issues in the world today are in the field of foreign policy. There, Jeremy Corbyn has been consistently right, while Theresa May has been consistently either wrong or, which is perhaps even worse, uninterested.

    While her MPs laughed and brayed at increased child and pensioner poverty at PMQs today, she herself has absolutely ruled out head-to-head debates, due to her having no policies. Or at least, as we shall see, no policies of her own. As to Corbyn’s, domestically, are they unpopular? Protecting the Triple Lock up to 2025? Compensating the WASPI women? Protecting the pensions of British citizens living abroad? Keeping the Winter Fuel Allowance and the free bus passes for pensioners? Cancelling the inheritance tax cut, in order to spend the money on paying carers properly? Scrapping the VAT exemption for private school fees, in order to spend the money on free school meals for all state primary pupils? No wonder she won’t debate them.

    She is, however, in favour of workers’ and consumers’ representation in corporate governance, of shareholders’ control over executive pay, of restrictions on pay differentials within companies, of an investment-based Industrial Strategy and infrastructure programme, of greatly increased housebuilding, of action against tax avoidance, of a ban on public contracts for tax-avoiding companies, of a cap on energy prices, of banning or greatly restricting foreign takeovers, and of a ban on unpaid internships. Two years ago, the only politicians advocating all but one of those were Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell, while the energy price cap, proposed by Ed Miliband, was being screamed down by the people who wish that they themselves were still running the Labour Party, something that they have not now done for as long as Tony Blair was ever Prime Minister. These days, though, such are the policies even of the person who can be elected unopposed as Leader of the Conservative Party.

    • forgotten_man

      Basic rate of tax is now about 50%.

      There isnt much more ‘redistribution’ headroom left , and pretty much all of your item can be summed up as ‘redistribute’.

      The pips are squeaking and the general population , at least the ones having their hard earned taken without their consent (look that definition up in the legal sense.) are not falling for the ‘progressive’ c p that corbyn’s whole er.. ‘career’ is based upon.

      • Labour_is_bunk

        If there had been a TCW “lefty lunacy” daily slot in the 70’s, one of them would surely have focused upon Denis Healey’s 25% VAT on so-called “luxury” goods – ostensibly to “soak the rich”. I remember the stink when it was discovered that many such items were being purchased by supposedly “poor” Labour voters. Labour need reminding of this next time they moan about VAT at 20%.

        • John C

          Have I mentioned yet that Healey was sc!m in every way?

      • SexRobot

        I seem to remember that the basic rate of tax was around 35% under Healey. Imagine that now.

        • TheRightToArmBears

          All sorts of goodies from Healey’s bag of gifts – SET, Selective Employment Tax under which good productive workers earned employers a weekly bonus via PAYE, while bad non-productive workers cost employers a similar amount. Result, car makers – good – took on more workers, and became lax and unprofitable, while bad employers mechanised to reduce staffing levels and became profitable, but unemployment soared.

          • John C

            Healy was sc!m in every way.
            The censorship here is weird and infantile.

    • Jen The Blue

      It will be my 8th GE and the 2nd in which there was more than a cigarette paper between the Parties. I agree it difficult to assess.

      I first voted in 1987 Choice Thatcher or Kinnock. Big difference.

      Next 1992. Major or Kinnock. I thought there was a big difference…..I was probably wrong.

      1997 Blair or Major……no difference

      2001 Blair or Hague…..I thought there was a difference….I was probably wrong again

      2005 Blair or Howard……No difference really.

      2010 Cameron or Brown……No policy difference. Cameron and Blair were exactly the same….Brown was just an insane Blair

      2015 Cameron or Miliband……No difference whatsoever

      2017 May or Corbyn………No contest. But Corbyn is just a communist and May is a centrist.

      • TheRightToArmBears

        May’s centre is based in Brussels.

      • Colkitto03

        Agree with all that. I would only say that I hold Michael Howard in quite high regard. He had no chance of winning but did a more important job. Holding the party together and putting the foundations down for the future. in this way he ensured Brown was not PM for long.

      • John C

        “Blair or Howard……No difference really” – utter bollocks.

    • Stuart Fairney

      She won’t debate, quite sensibly not because she’s afraid of Corbyn, but because she won’t give Tiny Tim Farron a platform. Remember the Clegg bounce after the first 2010 debate? Lesson learned.

    • Stuart Fairney

      Small point, but I already pay for poor children’s education and free meals. Also as I don’t not use state schools, I am reducing the pressure on class sizes. Why must I now pay VAT on school fees (one of our most successful export industries incidentally) to fund meals for the kids of very wealthy people?

      • TheRightToArmBears

        Because its what politicians do. They pick on those who can’t escape their gaze and sticky fingers.
        Just think how much money we wouldn’t need to find if the five million immigrants weren’t here.
        Painful, isn’t it?

    • Colkitto03

      I think the bigger issues are national : The complete lack of social mobility for working classes, the gap between rich and the working poor, the failure of Globalization to benefit working people, the damage of the effects of immigration on working people.
      For example the elite will pay 17 billion for HS2 and yet Grantham if losing its A&E for lack of public funds.These are all things that will resonate if Labour can get its message right (and the BBC lets it come across)

  • John Smith

    It will be a disappointment if Jezza is moved on, a lot of people have an investment in him
    It is far from guaranteed he will leave, even when beaten

    • rolpol

      History tells us that his ilk rarely stand down at their own accord…

      • SexRobot

        He simply will not leave. That’s it.

  • R M

    “The next Prime Minister (after Mrs May) will be a Conservative.”

    Strange you assume May is going to resign.

    • rolpol

      Prime Minister May would be 65 by the time of next election so may not stand. Blair barely managed a decade.

    • TheRightToArmBears

      And the one after that will be a Muslim.

      • Dominic Stockford

        Ironically a muslim would be far more conservative than anything we currently have – no matter what party they claim to represent on their way in. Unfortunately, it will be a religious conservatism which we will be destroyed by.

  • wisestreligion

    The Left do not need to win elections in order to control, and ruin, our country. They set the agenda at a deeper level than politics – our Belief System, or Religion (thought they would never dream of calling it that) – through Progressive control of the media. Conservative party politicians are afraid to transgress the Left’s new blasphemy code that is political correctness.

    In the Cameron years the Conservative Party shifted significantly to the Left. Essentially Cameron surrendered to the Leftist world view that worships the god of Equality over the creator God and Father of the Lord Jesus, who has been honoured by our rulers for the past 1500 years in this country. Theresa May has paid lip service to our Christian culture but we have not seen much in terms of policy to back it up. We are seeing more cultural Marxism in the classroom under LGBT Education Secretary Justine Greening.

    After the political events of 2016 the march of Progressiveness no longer looks quite so unstoppable. Cameron’s leftward lurch may not have been necessary, but has PM May got the Thatcherite steel to put us back on course?

    • choccycobnobs

      I would like to think that Mrs May is adhering to Theodore Roosevelt’s ” speak softly and carry a big stick”. No point if giving the opposition the rope to hang you with.

      • TheRightToArmBears

        Her big stick is the Muslim invasion, which she has used to beat us natives of Britain.

        • Dominic Stockford

          Ummm, that is a Labour legacy. She has merely used their idiocy as a tool.

    • Jen The Blue

      This is alas true.

    • Euan Gray

      Wasting your time banging on about Christian heritage – the is one of the LEAST religious countries on the planet, the regular weekly attendance at the official established church is well under a million and falling rapidly.
      There’s no doubt the whole of the west is facing a kind of “Kulturkampf” but pretending we’re somehow Christian in any meaningful sense will only lead people to ignore you as a god-botherer. See how well it works for Tim-Nice-But-Dim Farron?

      • wisestreligion

        To the extent that it is true, as you say, that we have left our Christian heritage, should we not be analysing and critiquing the beliefs that have superseded Christianity? If they are vague and confused then all the more reason to examine them. Should progressive beliefs be given a free pass to force our unquestioned submission simply because they self-describe as “non-religious”?

        Religion, defined as the most fundamental beliefs, principles and attitudes, going beyond the scientifically provable, that we all hold, motivates us much more than the relatively superficial layer of our preferences that is “politics”. If the Right detaches itself from the engine of its religious base it will always be out-powered by the Left which combines politics and belief in a new religion. Look at the manic obsessiveness of Leftist activists. That is surely religion and it has been allowed to crawl like a steamroller over our culture because there has been so little opposition at the religious level.

        • Euan Gray

          I’m very much on the right and have voted Tory since I was 18 in 1983, although I concede I voted UKIP in the last Euro elections. I’m also a social conservative, but on top of that I’m an atheist.
          Few people now believe in gods, and those who do are often the dangerous nutters. The religious explanation of things died a long time ago, science has shown it is so obviously and comprehensively wrong. Hanging a socio-political thesis on something so obviously wrong as religion is not going to work.
          If you want to persuade, then do not bang the drum of religion and do not confuse religion and morality.

          • John C

            But he IS a god botherer. And you can debate rationally with them.

          • Euan Gray

            Assume you mean can’t?
            Anyway, if we’ve got to have gods, what’s wrong with the Capitoline Triad? Christianity is after all simply Roman pagan religion with the serial numbers filed off and the names changed (Sol Invicta = Jesus, Triad = Trinity, Saturnalia = Christmas, Festival of Ceres = Harvest, and so on). At least with the Romans you get to have some fun.

          • John C

            Oops, yes, sorry – can’t, of course.

            “Christianity is after all simply Roman pagan religion with the serial numbers filed off” – Love it! May I quote you?

        • John C

          “Religion, defined as the most fundamental beliefs, principles and attitudes, going beyond the scientifically provable” – LOL. You are a spoof, yes?

      • Redrose82

        And no wonder when the clergy is full of Marxists.

    • Dominic Stockford

      They saw the way to go and took hold of the education system. That’s why we’re in the doo-doo.

    • John C

      Oh great, now we have god botherers here.

    • gildedtumbril

      Surely you mean, ‘Has she the balls?’.
      As she has large hands and feet, masculine legs, strides like a man and is less than appetising in the visage, one wonders.

      • John C

        You really are a revolting bigot in every way, aren’t you?

  • Jen The Blue

    I suspect early June 9th will see the back of Corbyn. I suspect he will be replaced by another extreme leftist who is slightly less stupid, slightly less deluded and slightly more media friendly but probably almost as unelectable as the great Jezza himself.

    ” ‘Arold, Feed the ‘orse. “

    • John C

      Nope. He’ll stay. “We weren’t sufficiently socialist”.

  • TheRightToArmBears

    ‘ . . allow her the luxury of facing down the harder-edged Brexiteers in her ranks . . ‘

    Why would she wish to argue with those who wish to run their own country and stop giving money to a bunch of foreigners?

    We owe Brussels absolutely nothing. Stop the money no and see the euro take the German, French and Italian banks with it. Then Merkel & Co would start to deal with reality.

    But May, the admirer of Sharia Law and wearer of head-scarves to please mullahs, is a remainer and will say she has a mandate to keep us shackled to the EU corpse, while she allows the rest of Pakistan, Syria, Afghanistan and Africa to join their relatives here..

    • gildedtumbril

      Sadly, you are probably correct. The maypole has achieved buggerall in her entire life, with the exception of becoming prime monster by default and increasing the influx of foreign filth while she promised, as Home Slimeball, to reduce it.

  • James

    May looks set to enlarge her majority and boot Labour into the wilderness.

    It’s just a shame that on all important issues her government is indistinguishable from Mr Blair’s “New Labour”. And for the five years it is likely to continue the policies of political correctness, high taxes, assaults on the family, unsound money and continual war.

    What is the point of having a Conservative Party if this is the best it can do?

    • Dominic Stockford

      It isn’t ‘conservative’ in any way.

    • John C

      and unlimited immigration from enrichment countries

  • fenellastrange

    Nothing will change: Corbyn has already shown that he has the support necessary to stay in post however bad things are in the Labour Party. If the events of the past year or so have not got rid of him, why should election defeat make him go? This is not a man who plays by the unwritten rules of honour and decency. Watch and learn, he will stay.

    • MoreSilentMajority

      he’ll be happy when he is the only member of the left, er…left. he can then trust his membership to adhere to his policies and follow his orders. of course his party support vote share will drop to 100%. the party will of course remain anti-semitic and anti GB, with him denying it as he refuses to admit his personal responsibility for anything. “it was diane, she did it, nothin’ to do with me, and i threw her out of the party after she left.”

      • John C


      • gildedtumbril

        Visions of him and her ‘at it’ are quite capable of causing projectile vomiting.

        • MoreSilentMajority

          aw, he puts a bag over ‘er ‘ed and does it for the glory of the the party and chairman mao. (probably vomits later before the sheep dip and showering, when she gets thru washing her mouth and naughty bits out with lye soap and listerine.)

    • gildedtumbril

      Perhaps you are right. Dustbin is actually an icepick short of a Trotsky.

    • Redrose82

      And if he doesn’t stay he will be replaced by another from the hard left. The Labour £3 membership will see to that.

    • The Wiganer

      The excuses are already prepared.

      ‘Biased right-wing media..’

      ‘Undermined by Blairites…’

      He will stay on, long enough to change the Labour voting rules to ensure his preferred successor wins.

      • Mary Robinson

        The naive, politically pure Trots of Momentum will continue to infest the Labour Party.

  • Dominic Stockford

    If the LimpDems do well then Labour might even be tipped into utter obscurity at this election. It’s possible that they’ll end up with under 23%, at which point their seat share will vanish.

    • thumper_the_rabbit

      The LumpyDims won’t do well.

      • gildedtumbril

        That is true. The liberal dimwits will shrink too.

    • Sir Harry Plunket-Greene

      I doubt it. The distribution of voters and seats is such that Labour have a rump of over 100 seats that they are extremely unlikely to lose – rosette on a donkey territory. Equally, the Lib Dems doing well compared to Labour will not help them much because most of the seats they might normally look to win are LD.Con marginals, and with the blue team at 45%+ in the polls, the Lib Dems would have a hard time winning twnty seats even if their share of the vote goes as high as Labours.

  • John C

    Soooo much drivel …
    “May will emerge from the carnage of June 8 with a majority approaching 100…”
    And the bigotry about beards.
    Just another Owen Jones, with different politics but the same infantile mindset.

    • Euan Gray

      As someone who wears a beard, I feel I must agree to some extent.
      Nowt wrong with facial hair.

      • gildedtumbril

        Of course there is something wrong with facial hair. It might seem to indicate an aversion to the cost of razor blades.

        • John C

          Do foxtrot oscar, dear.

        • Euan Gray

          Can’t grow one, hmm?

    • gildedtumbril

      The maypole has a beard. It is ‘her’ hubby.
      I trust her only as far as I would be able to throw him off a tall building.

  • mollysdad

    Corbyn will get fewer votes than a Hamas candidate in a yeshiva.

  • Euan Gray

    Labour now are roughly in the position of the liberals after WW1 – their basic assumptions about how the world works and how it ought to work have been discredited. Socialism is a busted flush, and no party advocating it is ever going to form a majority government again.
    However…the late 20th century alternative of privatising everything hasn’t worked very well either. What’s the point in getting a private company to deliver a state service? It costs just as much and all you really do is enrich shareholders. As they said about post-Communist Russia – under communism you couldn’t buy anything but under capitalism you have to pay for everything.
    Whilst socialism is dead, at least outside north London, globalisation, deregulation, and privatisation hasn’t delivered the goods. This is the danger for the Conservatives – what exactly IS the new idea to supplant both those failed notions?

    • Jim

      The reason for Privatisation was,1 You had to wait six months for a black telephone and 2 The Unions just went on strike nearly every month, 3 The State paid for all costs without limit.

  • Mary Robinson

    A Singapore style economy works very well. In Singapore. At times Singapore has been run along Communist lines with heavy State intervention, planning and a great deal of social housing. Ghettos have not been allowed to form and there are many freedoms we take for granted which are repressed. In fact, a massive social housing Programme Singapore style is something many people would support especially if it brought the housing benefits bill down.

  • Sgt_Bilko

    Miliband deserves recognition for the way he helped shape the current Labour party and deliver Brexit by accident. He’s made it too easy for May.

  • Phil R

    Corbyn has started off well with £10 an hour min wage reform of zero hours contracts, more social housing etc.

    We should not underestimate Corbyn. He is a proper socalist. The voters have not had this option for a generation.

    • Aaron D Highside

      The voters have not had this option since Worzel Foot!

      • Phil R

        If I were poor on min wage then Corby might get my vote.

        There are no real solutions to poverty on this road as we know. However, we do not offer an alternative for the poor.

        Why not try something radical like tripling unemployment benefit but only for the first year. No student loans or Engineers or Doctors, etc.

        Maggie gave the poor hope of improvement through their own efforts and state support.

        What do we offer?

  • Lamia

    Corbyn will go, though it’s possible he’ll stay on long enough to ‘help’ his succession by someone like McDonnell. Labour have got deep-rooted problems whoever replaces Corbyn, as both wings of Labour are out of step with each other and have shrinking appeal to their traditional voters.

    More significant may be the damage this may do to the Remoaners. They will still be able to Remoan , of course, but all their sophistry and goalpost moving regarding mandates, democracy, parliamentary sovereignty will be shown to be utterly threadbare and dishonest if they complain about the result. They know this, which is why they are – laughably – comparing May to a dictator for holding a General Election.

    At root, the Remoaners problem is that they fear and detest democracy because it sometimes gives you results you didn’t want – and they want to get their way all the time. I believe that, if nothing else, more of the electorate will get behind Brexit, and at least some of the snowflakes will have to take up another hobby.

    This tantrum has been going on for far too long and it’s not just anti-democratic, it’s boring. Remainers have a last chance – not that they deserved one – to block Brexit by voting in a Coalition of the Unwilling. Go on then, guys… good luck getting the necessary votes from an electorate that you’ve been calling racist and stupid for the past ten months.