Kathy Gyngell: The Trump critique we don’t hear over here

Anyone who read my confession last week knows I do not pretend to be dispassionate on the question of Donald Trump. I am an out-and-out Trump admirer. The British media, by contrast, are out-and-out Trump haters.

Which is why you never hear a balanced critique over here of how he is performing as President.

To get a measured analysis of how he is doing for his country and for his own political future, you have to turn to the conservative American media.

My first stop is the National Review (not Breitbart or the even more fawning Trump Train or American Action News). You can rely on the upmarket online political journal not to pull any punches and to run critical opinion. Its writers are by no means all fans of The Donald or the Trump syndrome.

However I suspect the redoubtable Victor Davis Hanson secretly is. In his recently published analysis of Trump’s fate, he is scrupulously fair about what detracts from Trump against what works in his favour as here.

If you are interested in what may determine Trump’s political future, I recommend it. Hanson starts with the bottom line – the things that matters most to the ordinary man – the economy and security:

‘If the economy grows at over 3 per cent or even more from the last quarter of 2017 to November 2018, if unemployment dips below 4 per cent, if the stock market holds at its record levels, if business, consumer, and corporate confidence keeps soaring, if illegal immigration continues to plummet, if construction and manufacturing stay on the upswing, if Trump’s national security team brings a new deterrence to foreign policy without a war with North Korea or Iran, and if energy production reaches ever-record levels, then voters will put up with a lot of Trump’s downsides.’

On the Trump's poll ratings, which are holding despite the ‘Trump embarrassment factor’, Hanson observes that dissatisfaction with the man does not equal stating a preference for Elizabeth Warren; furthermore much depends on whether the Democrats continue on their suicidal route.

He details the evidence that shows Trump’s base to be as firm as it ever was against ‘the tsunami of scandals [that] has perhaps also weakened the entire narrative of progressives as feminist defenders in the so-called Republican war on women’.

The emerging Democrat sex scandal hypocrisy, just like their ‘preachy environmentalism, ever-larger government, “I got mine” elitist snobbery, static economic growth, and polarizing identity politics fuelled by supposed “white privilege”,’ will, he suspects, prove a further turn-off factor.

As to the the outcome of the Russian collusion investigations, Congress has yet to learn exactly what Robert Mueller ‘was or was not doing during his tenure in the Obama administration, when the Clintons, with assumed exemption, finessed special-favour deals with foreign interests, including and especially Russian uranium concerns, and exactly what the complex relationships were between the self-righteous James Comey, the FBI and intelligence communities, the FISA courts, the unmasking and leaking of classified intercepts of private-citizen communications, and the Steele smear dossier.’ Indeed.



For some strange reason we did not hear Mrs Clinton interrogated on any of this during her much-BBC-feted book publishing tour a month or so ago. If it turns out not to be at least as scandalous as anything Trump’s stupid minions tarnished themselves with, I will be very surprised.

My prediction (not Hanson’s) is that this is all going to be very disappointing for the British media who go into overdrive at any opportunity to smear Trump’s team. But no doubt they will continue to let the ever-seedier-looking Clintons off the hook.

Hanson concludes that Trump has learned politics more rapidly than his politically seasoned critics have learned to critique him. That, in my opinion, is why we will see him fighting and winning a second term.

Kathy Gyngell

  • PierrePendre

    I second Gyngell’s admiration for Hanson who is extraordinarily prolific and is an academic and farmer as well as a political writer. He’s just published a well received history of WW2 which has been praised for tackling the subject in an original and revealing way which marks it out from the many other histories of the war. The entire European politico-media class have since Nixon taken their cue about Republican presidents and government from the NYT/WP axis and for that reason I very rarely read their opinions. It’s simpler to go straight to the source and read the US media from which they lift their line to take.

    It’s instructive to read the headlines on the RealClearPolitics aggregating site which contrasts stories about the same issues taken from liberal and conservative outlets. They often directly contradict each other: Trump has got this right versus Another Disaster from Trump. Both versions, working from the same set of facts, can’t be correct. The liberal media never concede anything to Trump. It makes them sound stridently partisan and unwilling to be constructive. Conservative writers appear more willing to criticise him as well as support what they think he gets right. It enhances their credibility. The British media behave similarly in respect of Brexit. The Guardian never has anything positive to say about Brexit and frequently leads its stories with hostile or dismissive and sometime gloating comments about the UK from unnamed “senior EU officials”. As they say – that’s the Guardian for you.

    So much of what the liberal media herd write about Trump seems to be blind. There have been no crises despite the endless catastrophe headlines. America’s overwhelmingly liberal MSM confuse the rollback of Obama’s overreach and Trump decisions they don’t like – the normal process of democratic government – with catastrophe. If these things are catastrophic, it is only for the media and their Democratic allies personally. As far as conservatives are concerned, let’s have more of it. As Hanson astutely said, the reservations Americans have about Trump’s irritatingly unpresidential behaviour and tweeting don’t mean that they disapprove of his government or it’s performance so far or wish they’d gone with Hillary after all. There are plenty of Trump critics and doubters who simultaneously thank God that she is not their president.

    • Well said. Trump didn’t so much win as Hillary! lost. But the way Trump is running the USG has made it as certain as anything in politics that he will be re-elected Barring an unforeseen tragedy, which doesn’t necessarily include full on war with Iran or North Korea, if conducted properly (that means to win, not the stalemates we have seen since 2001). He has (and is) doing a remarkable job.

  • Colkitto03

    Even the UKs right of centre journalists rush to virtue signal their dislike of Trump. Remember the Trump feeding carp story in Japan recently? A twitter storm led by the great and the good and the great condemned him without seeing the full clip, of course they made fools of themselves.
    Remember the story of him not shaking the disabled boys hand? Again the full clip showed the full story.
    Action speak louder than words. Our journalistic community regularly display their ignorance and bias on Twitter.

    • James60498 .

      They made fools of themselves to those who bother to look.

      But how many people really care, and find it easier just to believe the carp that they are fed from the MSM?

    • Harley Quin

      Right Of centre journalists ? Globalising neo Cons aren’t right of centre. They have much more in common witH the Left

      • Colkitto03

        True indeed,
        The journalist who inspired this post was Julia Hartley brewer. She tweeted about the carp story without understanding the true story.
        Now I am a big fan of Julia. For people who think women cant be funny i would refer them to her genuinely funny/witty remarks on twitter. She makes me laugh and i agree with 90% of what she says.
        BUT she does have this irritating anti Trump narrative. God know what she will make of the whole ‘Britain first’ twitter storm?.

  • Reading the UK media, I never really discovered what Clinton stood for other that “It’s time America had a female president and I’m that female”.
    Other than that, constant criticism of Trump appeared to be the platform of the Democrats.

    • Colkitto03

      Very true. In my mind the Democrats have become the party of the corporations, very rich and the ‘non working’ class.

      • Not to mention every carefully designated ‘victim group’ who wants to steal the results of the productive.

      • They certainly seem to be supporting and have the support of every “special interest” group

  • The_Mocking_Turtle

    Well, doing repulsive things such as re-tweeting incendiary and almost certainly false anti-Muslim propaganda, sourced from and bigging up the disgusting uber fascist and racialist shower of sh*t called Britain First, might have something to do with the dislike a majority of British people have for poorly informed, crude and vulgar Trump.

    https://news.sky.com/story/donald-trump-retweets-anti-muslim-videos-posted-by-britain-first-deputy-leader-11148844

    Idiotic at best and reprehensible at worst; the actions of an oaf not fit to be president.

    You don’t have to believe me just watch any news channel of your choice and behold. Or read any newspaper you like tomorrow. This isn’t a story that is going to go away any time soon.

    • Flaketime

      If you have some evidence that the videos were faked then produce it. If it is true then it is fact, and despite the hysterical ravings of todays Fascists reality is only that, and it is for us to make a decision not the Fascist Left and the lying media.

      Even the BBC have had to admit that they faked the news when they described the videos as anti Islamic, and now just call them incendiary.

      How telling it is that the anti white racists of the left are prepared to criticise someone for telling the truth, and yet not prepared to criticise the Muslims for their appalling actions.

      I think I’ll view Fox news & RT which might give a more balanced perspective on this.

    • Harley Quin

      ‘Almost certainly false anti-Muslim propaganda’? Why would he need to do that, seeing that there is so much that is readily provable available?

    • Andy

      So the videos are false. One of them maybe, the other two show vile Muslims killing people and destroying religious icons.

      No one has ever seen that have they!

      You are an idiot.

      • The_Mocking_Turtle

        Bad people do bad things but bad people should not be held up as examples of any particular race or creed in order to incite hatred of or bad feeling towards the innocent.

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3637414/Everyone-running-Gunman-bursts-gay-nightclub-Florida-shoots-20-people-taking-hostages.html

        Does the incident above indicate that Americans are all murderous and that we should hate them because some of them commit mass murder? You are the idiot and the stooge to act as an apologist for such a repellent figure as Trump.

        As far as idiocy is concerned your stupidity eclipses mine utterly. .

        • Colonel Mustard

          Your point might have a point if leftists like you applied the same “reasoning” to your treatment of people who disagree with YOUR creed. Then it seems the incitement of hatred and even of assault is acceptable.

          Surely you are not hypocrites, are you? (titter)

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            I consider myself centrist actually although I appreciate that to someone to the right of Attila the Hun, politically, I must look like a commie revolutionary. No harm, no foul. Go in peace and sin no more.

          • Colonel Mustard

            Yes, a lot of lefties now consider themselves “centrist” since the centre has shifted leftwards with Cameron’s “modernised” Tories. And let’s face it anyone right of Trotsky is now considered to be that tired old cliché “right of Attila the Hun”.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            Now I’m confused. When you say “lefty” what do you actually mean, Colonel? What aspects and attributes do these “lefties” possess and display? I’m curious now to discover whether I’m a “lefty” or not and would appreciate your assistance.

          • Andy

            Most would consider you a halfwit. And a failure compared to President Trump.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            Naughty, naughty. It’s early to bed for you, Sonny. You’re grounded until further notice.

        • Andy

          I bet your wife cannot stand you either.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            How old are you? Twelve? You sound like a petulant child.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            You must be a boy to behave so childishly. Your words and actions are not those of a grown man and I’m beginning to feel uncomfortable arguing. Come back when you’ve lost your virginity and I will reconsider… assuming that I don’t pass away of course waiting for an event as unlikely as that to occur so utterly charmless you seem to be.

  • Nick Muir

    You can fool some of the people all of the time, and then there’s Kathy Gyngell, who among much else, has taken the idiotic deflections about Muller and Comey hook line and sinker. Wonder did she have her lobotomy done on the NHS or did she go private?

  • Owen_Morgan

    Britain’s journalists have thrown away an amazing opportunity, over the last ten years. Around 2007, when the glacial yawnathon known as a US Presidential election was getting going, mainstream media were determined to ensure that Hillary Clinton became the first female President until… stuff that, there’s some brown bloke, called Obama bin Barack, or something. He’s waaaay kewler.

    Obama had the nerve to claim, shortly before vacating the White House, that his terms in office had been scandal-free. That’s Clintonian thinking, tree-falling-in-the-forest stuff: is a scandal scandalous, if your toadies in the press suppress the story? The list of what should, by any definition, have been scandals under Obama is long: gun-running to drug cartels; politicisation of the IRS; race-baiting; Benghazi and the cover-up; Bergdahls at the White House; Clinton’s insecure server and the Potemkin-style investigation… Most of the US media paid virtually no attention to any of it and the British media, which could have stepped in and gained some credibility, just did copy ‘n’ paste stuff from CNN and the NYT.

    With Trump in the White House, everything is now a scandal, but the quality of journalism is as bad as before. When Jim Acosta grandstands during a press conference, his competitors ought to be asking why he doesn’t just shut up and let them ask their questions, but they don’t, because their questions are the same, word for word. This is not coincidence.

    Journolist was a cabal of scribblers who were happy to publish whatever it took to get Obama into office. Supposedly, Journolist no longer exists, but organisations like Media Matters regularly feed stories verbatim to pliant scribes. When a bunch of media outlets suddenly cough up the same story, in the same language, that’s called “astroturfing”. The authors will insist it’s all their own work, but it is not. They are publishing what they have been instructed to publish. It should be exposed and British media sources are well placed to do that, but have abandoned the idea of investigation.

    We have an out of control “national” broadcaster and internet news and opinion sites under attack for not being “politically correct”. If the likes of the Daily Telegraph and the Spectator can’t make an impact now, isn’t it time they just retired to Sussex, to keep bees, and stopped pretending to deliver the news?

    • Indeed. There was a reason why so many of us were Telegraph subscribers as well. They at least covered some of the news, as opposed to the major American media, much the same with the BBC, at least they had had trouble deciding between Clinton and Obama, and so their coverage wasn’t bad, you could filter out the biases. Not any more, they’ve become as useless as the US media (or the Guardian) not worth the time. Best anymore on the US is the Daily Mail, which seems ridiculous, but it is true.

  • A State Visit by Donald Trump would now galvanise an entire generation, changing Britain in ways too numerous to list, over the next 50 years and more. Provided that the demonstrations were organised and, as they say in showbusiness, headlined by opponents of other unsavoury State Visitors such as successive Kings of Saudi Arabia, and by opponents of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama who would have opposed Hillary Clinton just as vigorously.

    And provided that those organisers and headliners are just as robust, both against the leading members of the present governing party who have deep roots in the 1980s subculture that also produced Thomas Mair, and against the White Helmets who are funded by the Jo Cox Foundation. See you there.

  • BSO

    Well much to my original surprise I found myself agreeing with Trump early on. I followed
    his extraordinary rise and his policy development, I marvelled at his audacity
    and his “drain the swamp speech”, his appeal to African Americans, his
    call for a Muslim travel ban, etc. I waited to be offended, I waited to
    disagree, I watched the Pussygate scandal arrive and his unflinching counter
    attack in the second US debate and I decided, as I had thought through much of
    the primaries, that he was going to win. I told many people, I went out on a
    limb. And I was very pleased that I was right.
    I have marvelled at his speeches in Poland, Saudi
    Arabia and China. His treatment by the media has been an absolutely eye
    opening event for me – I now see the Democrats in a withering light.
    Anyone foolish enough to repeat NYT or WaPo sound bites disqualifies themselves in my
    eyes. Trump is fighting the Democrats, their hang-over appointments in government,
    many of the GOP establish particularly in the Senate, and the Never Trumpers who marginalize themselves and almost gift him the party by their conduct. Roy More will deservedly win, and no I do not believe the accusations against him.
    I am now a Trump supporter. Back in September 2015 I wrote into
    comment on another Conservative women article and here is what I put:

    “Sept15th 2015 on conservative women comment page
    Trump is doing very well in the primaries. There was Megan Kelly gotcha spat and the whole PC brigade descended on him and he basically said to hell with you I have not got time for
    PC. His ratings went up. The questioning was hopelessly bias consequently it was hard
    to see how he would really perform. When the liberal TV stations hold
    their debates it will be interesting how they go. I have
    formed a view on the candidates by going to what they say and not what
    people say they say. Trump has clearly galvanized the field set an agenda on
    illegal immigration and shook up the primaries. I have found myself resonating
    with him much to my surprise and I have tried to work out why and it is the
    fact that he says America is in decline, its dying on its feet and action is
    require urgently. Politicians tend to underplay negative messages with Trump its front
    and centre and it helps that it is true.

    The other elements of his pitch are actually quite attractive particularly about
    being a deal maker. There is some way to go but I think he could conceivably
    win the republican nomination. So what follows is based on that scenario. To get to
    that point he will need to mature as a candidate, adjust his message, and deal
    with setbacks. If he did win the nomination all hell would break loose.

    Trump will have no compulsion to play the moderate polite flattering game. I can
    imagine him ripping into Hillary and if he prepares properly dragging out all
    the reasons she’s not fit for the Presidency which I think are too numerous to
    mention but Benghazi is toxic. He will need policies, more of them than he has
    at the moment.

    You say: “If he wins he will need to take on the die-hard Democrats, Hispanics
    and blacks. The Hispanics and Blacks alone make up 40% of the electorate – I
    really can’t see them falling over themselves to swap from a black president to
    his polar opposite. Right now Clinton is ahead of the polls for pres. so more
    likely Trump would lose… ”

    Democratic support is 46-7% Republican is around the same 45-47%. At his imperial best
    with a jaded McCain and divisive Palin Obama got 53% and last time 51% against
    the beleaguered Romney despite the fact that Obama hardly turned up in the
    debates. Probably the IRS’ campaign against Tea party networks and activists
    helped. Indeed with African-Americans making up 12% of the vote, Hispanics 10%
    and other minorities making up perhaps 5%. whites accounted for 71%. See http://www.brookings.edu/re

    All you need to win is 51% essentially Trump needs to get 4% of
    those who voted democratic last time to vote Republican. Not the hard core
    democrat voters but the ones that are floaters. The white section of the
    population is reducing percentage wise to around 69-70% of the population. If
    you watch Trumps speeches he often gets black people to take his platform and
    talk about law and order themes; murdered loved ones. Expect this to continue at
    some point he will turn on the “black lives matters ” with an”
    all lives matters” and “I’m going to clean up the drugs gangs”
    law and order pitch to dislodge despairing inner city voters. The lawlessness
    in black communities controlled by democrats is a real issue for those communities.
    The Giuliani option if you like. Its likely that and the state of the Democratic ticket will determine
    the outcome. Here’s the thing Trump’s message is based on a withering critique of the decline of
    the country and the urgency for action. What will Clinton bring to those
    communities? More entitlements, decay, dependency, welfare versus, jobs, self
    reliance, and law and order. If Trump can grow his credibility for office it is possible
    he could dislodge enough whites and a few blacks and Hispanics as well has
    those who crave an end to gun crime and hate the race baiters.

    On Clinton – and I will probably be hopelessly wrong but here goes…she’s dead in
    the water. Emailgate won’t go away; Benghazi’s toxic and Trump will dig it up
    again and again. I also think she has made a lot of enemies on her own side. They are
    circling at the moment and may pounce. If Trump gets the nomination he will
    crush her in the debates. Hillary is loved by Hollywood and Feminists and will
    raise tonnes of money but if she does get the nominations the right will be
    fired up will over look all of Trumps failings to get Hillary.

    A billionaire business man versus a serial liar, financially corrupt, incompetent
    Secretary of State. Remember, Trump’s message is Make American Better again,
    rebuild the defenses rebuild trade, and make good deals. He’s running against
    Obama and Clintons records. I think she will take the rap for Obama failures.

    The democratic primary is a little like the labour leadership hustings the pickings
    are not very tasty. If Biden does have to come in for her I think there will be panic
    which will feed time for a change. I will stay up to 3am in the morning just to
    watch Trump lace into her corrupt record.

    So having said all this what could prevent Trump. He has to evolve his message and get
    tighter on his policy positions, reach outside of his 25-30 core, if he does
    not get the machinery on the ground in place, and at some point he needs to
    reach out to the republican failures in congress – they are more scared of Trump
    than Hillary. Some of them might actually prefer Hillary to Trump!

    Also the democratic machine is utterly unprincipled, controls 2/3rds of the press and TV
    and has got used to getting its own way particualrly on the culture wars. Some
    of the strategist on the Democrat side will be planning how to hit Trump.

    Turncoat, sell out will be a theme, you can’t trust him, he’s an egomaniac, etc., and
    best of all a misogynist. The liberal social and economic policy record is just useless: African American families and marriages survived slavery, the civil war, Democrat Jim Crow but
    not the War on Poverty. Hillary has to be running on more of the same. I think
    Trumps tone is about right: “the American dream is dead but I want to make it
    bigger and better.”

    Please don’t get me wrong Trump is not a social conservative, not into small
    government and outside of core themes and the border wall, not that clear on
    what he will implement but I can see him doing deals with congress and getting
    a program through. He often uses the term “Killer” to describe the business
    associates he has, I think it might be good to see his administration in the
    White House. No more mediocrity, slow decline and capitulation. That’s what
    resonates with me a UK citizen that cannot even vote. But a defeat for
    liberalism will be of global service. If not Trump then anyone but Jeb:
    seriously I’d go Cruz or Fiorina with Scott Walker an outsider. Ben Carson I like.
    Lastly, the business class and lobbies will also feel uncomfortable with a Trump
    presidency as he is a maverick a billionaire (that’s good) but an outsider that
    will want to change stuff (bad)…again it will be interesting to see how
    Trump deals with this. He simply may not be up to it. But Obama was a nonentity of a
    senator with no governance, no deal making skills and a highly dubious radical
    black background and he rebranded himself as a unifying, technocratic, non
    race, orator of “hope and change….”

    Not to bad.

  • Interesting that American Spectator has named President Trump as their Man of the Year, leading the article with the quote from by Congressman Edward Stuyvesant Bragg of Wisconsin introducing Grover Cleveland at the convention:

    “They love him, gentlemen, and they respect him, not only for himself, but for his character, for his integrity and judgment and iron will; but they love him most for the enemies he has made.”

    It became famous for that last clause, of course. They also spoke with some of their Trump supporting friends over Thanksgiving and what they say are the reasons they support him is on point. The top ten:

    “1. He doesn’t have to raise his voice to make his points.
    2. He is determined.
    3. He relies on the merits of the issue.
    4. He has confidence in himself and the American people to do the right thing.
    5. He doesn’t ride the fence.
    6. He holds his ground.
    7.He is energetic.
    8. He is tireless, has a great work ethic…like us he is a workaholic — even when golfing.
    9. He doesn’t start fights but he will definitely finish them.

    And number ten? This will be the one that launches liberals into the stratosphere:

    10. He’s the type of person you want to vote twice for.

    The point they make is that it is not about individual issues, they change and often. It’s about personal characteristics. I’d add one myself, He leads. We after all are the people who wrote the adage, “Lead, follow or get the H*ll out of the way”. We meant it when it was new, and we mean it now. America is a different place than it was before the election, it is far more like it was when I was young, than it has been since, well since Watergate probably, at least since Reagan.

    https://spectator.org/president-trump-the-american-spectator-man-of-the-year/

  • Tethys

    Bad timing Kathy
    LOCK HIM UP.

  • Aisla Sinclair

    The beauty of this site is that it is essential to get a balanced view of life.
    This is another fine article-Victor is a splendid fellow, as is Thomas Sowell over there-Roger Scruton over here too.
    Trump is on the side of the angels, Jesus would have been a Deplorable.
    Thankfully, none of need listen to fake news anymore, let alone pay for it.
    RT/Al Jaz and a range of sites like this beauty-and we get the whole of the moon. Trumps sin to the left and Dead Tree Media is that he bypasses their idiocies and bigotries and we get it. No wonder then want all SMS licensed by themselves. God, I hate them!

    • c50

      Scruton is a paranoid fascist.

      • Harley Quin

        Everyone to the right of Trotsky is a fascist , according to some.

  • Tethys

    Lock him up.

    • Colonel Mustard

      I’d rather they locked you up – and “Jenni Wren” – in a gender neutral cell.

      • The_Mocking_Turtle

        In interests of balance here is some positive praise for Donald Trump as far as this affair is concerned:

        https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-day-praised-by-david-duke-condemned-by-theresa-may

        Personally I would not have welcomed endorsement from David Ernest Duke the notorious American white supremacist and white nationalist politician, antisemitic conspiracy theorist, Holocaust denier, convicted felon, and former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan. But that’s just me. How does the old adage about “birds of a feather” go again?

      • Tethys

        We’ll be sure to visit you in your padded one on the special wing and say ‘hi’ through the slit. 👌

        • Colonel Mustard

          No thanks. Being in the presence of lefties like you makes my skin crawl (© Patrick Stewart).

          • Tethys

            I don’t know what a ‘lefty’ is any more than I suspect you do.
            But I think you’re further off-centre than most.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            To the Colonel I think “lefty” is equivalent to “compassionate individual with respect for the truth”. He will no doubt correct me if I am wrong. At least I hope he will.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            I wouldn’t consider myself a “leftie” but a, pleased to say that I find you amusing, Colonel, and always look forward to your contributions.

  • c50

    I am not sure that ignoring Trum’p’s projection of hatred onto minorities and ‘others’ can be ignored even if all the figures are going in the right direction. It spunds crass for me to sau it but Trump has inherited an economy benefiting from stimulus but I reglcognise he hasnt destroyed it but in reality does business care who is president as long as there is stanility- something we lack here. The elephant in the room is this fascist style of leadetship- both Hitler and Stalin presided pver huge growth. My fear, maybe unwarranted, is that once intelligent professional like Kathy Gyngell follow such policies we ate moving toeards an authoritarian politics which is a disaster

  • Jenni Wren

    Spoof site

  • richardofkent

    I recently spent a few weeks in Hawaii. Having been brought up on an endless diet of BBC’s anti American, anti Trump propaganda I was surprised by how positive many Americans were with the new President. I was also impressed with the way the media were critiquing Mrs Clinton. Most interviewers (especially the women) were on the ball and attacking her for her hypocritical attitudes on many issues – sexual assault, Islam, Russia etc. Compare and contrast with the BBC’s interviews of her whilst she was on her “royal visit”.

  • Dave S

    They just do not get that President Trump is a master of strategy.
    He retweets some videos and draws their ire not because the videos are fake( nobody seems to want to establish truth or falsehood) but because he is doing it.
    Even May unwisely puts her oar in.
    This is how you find out who you can rely on. Also the US electorate can see this as well and the President only really cares for their opinion.
    Not for the Guardian or the BBC or any European politician.

    • The_Mocking_Turtle

      The fakery of the videos is being exposed even as I type these words.

      https://uk.news.yahoo.com/video-muslim-migrant-retweeted-donald-trump-revealed-fake-085946782.html

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5129743/Trump-video-Muslim-migrant-beating-boy-crutches-DUTCH.html

      Just keep your eyes and ears open over the coming day and weeks.

      • Colonel Mustard

        Your idol Corbyn tweeted that Trump’s “far right” tweets are “abhorrent, dangerous and a threat to our society.”

        But Corbyn and the communist goons braying for him are abhorrent, dangerous and a threat to our society. More so, because President Trump will never walk into No.10 as our Prime Minister.

        • The_Mocking_Turtle

          I defy you to find a single comment of mine that praises Corbyn in any way, shape or form. I dare you to do so. In fact in several comments I opined that Jeremy Corbyn was unfit to be Prime Minister. Like Donald Trump you seem somewhat less than scrupulous with accuracy and the truth, generally, shall we say. (Although I don’t blame either of you entirely for grasping at straws.) Now, as far as Trump goes here’s the reaction of some politicos from left, right and centre.

          https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/30/evil-racist-how-the-uk-reacted-to-trumps-theresa-may-twitter-attack

          Your spleen amuses but fails to enlighten alas.

          • Colonel Mustard

            Methinks you protesteth too much.

            The Guardian doesn’t upset me, although no doubt in your smug little “centrist” world (ha!) you rather hope that it does. It is a silly newspaper full of inane tripe written by silly “journalists” who, like you, think they have something very important to say.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            The truth is the truth wherever it appears and I am quite happy to quote from the Daily Mail as the Guardian. You do not seem a well balanced individual to me, Colonel. Personal problems perchance?

      • Dave S

        The President is not my idol but a very interesting politician. As for the videos i have looked online at these and cannot at the moment see any convincing refutations of their authentic origins.
        The crippled Dutch boy incident is at the very least an ambivalent one. As for the others they look hard to dismiss as fake however much the progressives would like to do so.
        What is clear is that so deep is the hostility to the President amongst our political and media class of all current parties that a visit is out of the question. .They have been flushed out in a manner of speaking and shown to the US public just how hostile they always were and always will be. Not at all good for this country but I am sure most of flyover USA could not give a FRA. There has always been a real hostility to the USA in this country particularly on the left.
        I am sure the President studies the works of Sun Tzu. Europe is now hostile ground .

        • The_Mocking_Turtle

          I did reply and my comment got moderated. Sadly I do not think you merit a further, longer attempt and so I will merely wish you well and allow you to worship your hero.

          Ta-ta.

      • Andy

        Not a true word in this post.

        • The_Mocking_Turtle

          Are you saying that Yahoo! and the right-wing newspaper the Daily Mail have falsified their journalism? Seriously? You will have a lot of trouble persuading people of that.

          • Andy

            No, you have not stated correctly what they are saying.

            Two videos show muslim violence, that it true. One may not, only a cretin or liar would suggest that means ‘fakery’.

            You are a cretin and a liar.

          • The_Mocking_Turtle

            You are a very rude young man. I say “young man” because you sound like some adolescent teenager upset because someone has had a bad word to say about his idol. Your crudity, rudeness and lack of manners is something I hope you grow out of.

  • 39 Pontiac Dream

    I think one of the reasons Trump is so hated is because he touches a nerve with many people. While I disagree with foreign politicians interfering in our country, Trump has pointed out that we don’t deal well enough with terrorism and he is right about that. For the government and its disloyal opposition, that touches a nerve because they don’t dare deal with anything which is deemed, in their perspective, as politically sensitive.
    If they are afraid to deal with real issues and someone points that out, they go on the attack because they are afraid of being found wanting. Well, touch luck, May and Corbyn, you were found out a long time ago.