Reader’s comment: Rage is rising

In response to Andrew Cadman: Imprisoned by the EU and £50bn for the privilege – nice one, Theresa!, BermyDroid wrote:

Just a perfectly written article – I suspect the second paragraph sums up the sentiments of the 17.4million (and many millions more) people who voted for, want and demand a clean break. Rage is building across this nation like nothing I've ever seen.

  • martianonlooker

    Rage is building? Some of the blogs I’ve read seem to be calling for a civil war. Sadly, that would seem to be the only option that would force our MPs to properly serve the people.

    • Reborn

      Historically, the treatment of the UK’s less privileged citizens relative to the ruling classes
      is without parallel, because the callousness is motivated by the desire to appease foreign powers & immigrants
      When peasants, factory workers & soldiers were exploited 200 years back it was part of an ongoing tradition. Class & wealth based.
      Today, it is at the behest of international forces, egged on by many UK politicians & the
      ill named BBC.
      In any other country there would be assorted rebellions or attempted rebellions,
      “freedom fighters” egged on by the BBC
      Such groups do not exist in the UK, certainly not violent ones, and although we must deplore violence, it is almost suicidal the way we sit back, as in Rotherham, and allow
      alien forces to dominate & humiliate us.
      If the UK is to survive, it must have, as in some continental countries, a strong political
      party that is pro European, anti EU and campaigns strongly & non violently to rid our
      land of undesirable immigrants & their values & to install a civil service that reflects our values & our history.
      As I write this, I hear that a mohammedan plot to murder our PM has been foiled & that
      some foreign court, thanks to the vile Blair, is reopening cases against our troops
      using the material associated with the corrupt lawyers at PIL.
      We are being humiliated in our own land daily.

      • Godfrey Sandford

        Spot on.
        The desire of our elite to appease foreign powers and alien authority is without precedent in our history.
        As Colonel Mustard notes above, every nationalism is permitted but English.
        The humiliation is unbearable and the provocation is extreme.

      • martianonlooker

        Excellent points, you expressed my feelings exactly.

      • Simon Platt

        True, that. (But I had to copy and paste into a text editor and fix the line breaks before I could read it.)

        And I think you might have been a bit harsh on 18th-century industrialists. (Not on the BBC, obviously.)

    • Busy Mum

      Or is it the option that our MPs are forcing on us……

      I think it is inevitable.

    • Vaderfone

      “War is not the best way of settling differences; it is the only way of preventing their being settled for you.” – G K Chesterton

      • Simon Platt

        Mandatory Chesterton upvote from me …

    • wibbling

      No one wants war. They really don’t.

      What people want is to be listened to. To do that very British thing of asking a question and getting an answer, regardless of how difficult that answer might be to hear.

      Our politicians have removed that from us. They tell us what we will accept, what we will pay and we are, increasingly, forbidden from questioning it.

      They don’t want us to talk about the problems in our society. They just want us to shut up and obey, fit in and vanish because all these petty annoyances are trivial – all this ‘I can’t get a doctors appointment, why does no one speak English, why am I taxed 60% of my income and get nothing for it? Why are you so supportive of Islam?

      They just ignore us, or scream abuse. These are reasonable questions that we are prevented from asking.

      What’s lacking is democracy. We exist within an autocracy, a bureaucratic statist monster which prevents us from acting as we wish to – for our own benefit, of course. That needs to change and government be regularly told no and the endless streams of statist stupidity flushed away.

      • Sargv

        “An autocracy is a system of government in which supreme power is concentrated in the hands of one person”.

        Are you sure there is a single person that holds the real power in the UK? Because if it is so, the task is easy: a coup will set us free.

        But it seems to me that the UK is much closer to deist theocracy, with a cast of priests (“the experts” from academia, civil service and press), who worship vague things like “diversity”, “inclusivity”, “equality of outcomes”, etc. Not unlike the early Soviet Union. They convert new believers in their temples that we call “liberal arts colleges”. A smart move of dropping the transcendental God figure from their religion allowed them to install their teaching in a de jure secular country

        Now, how can you defeat a theocracy? Especially given that as much as half the population are believers by this point.

        • martianonlooker

          I still broadly agree with ‘wibblings’ discourse. However, you have precisely defined our theocracy. Sums up our sham democracy very well indeed.

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      • One must always remember , though that it is as John Adams wrote to Thomas Jefferson on 13 November 1815:

        ” The fundamental article of my political creed is that despotism, or unlimited sovereignty, or absolute power, is the same in a majority of a popular assembly, an aristocratical council, an oligarchical junto, and a single emperor. Equally arbitrary, cruel, bloody, and in every respect diabolical.”.

  • alecto

    We should building a gallows for these traitors!

    • Sargv

      Meanwhile “the traitors” will argue that gallows project will definitely require Polish builders to be completed in time, so if you want to see it finished, the UK MUST stay in the EU and keep the borders open.

      • Simon Platt

        That’s quite good. I didn’t get the quotation marks, though.

  • Maximum Overdrive
    • Busy Mum

      Only a true patriot – English, French, whatever – can fully appreciate Sibelius’ musical outpouring of love for his homeland. One of my favourite pieces of music, especially when ‘Be Still My Soul’ is sung to it.

      • Simon Platt

        Sound fellow, Sibelius. Finnish patriot. Despite being Swedish. Kind of.

        Liked a drink though. Not kind to his wife, neither.

  • 39 Pontiac Dream

    Rage has been building for a while but I’m not too sure that’s all to do with Brexit. Political correctness, identity politics, lefty indoctrination, further state interference, safe spaces, no platforming, intersectionality – I’d say there are far greater risks to our freedoms at home than those pressed on us by the EU.

    • Colonel Mustard

      The EU has been the conduit and facilitator of many of those impositions.

      • 39 Pontiac Dream

        Maybe but we cannot blame the EU for everything. The left, in our own country, must accept the blame.

        • a misplaced modifier

          It may not be entirely the fault of the EU. That doesn’t, however, mean I won’t blame them for it.

        • Colonel Mustard

          I don’t. I wrote “many of” not “all of”! 😉

      • hedgemagnet

        I’ll go a stage further and say it all trickles down from the UN

  • paul parmenter

    Look, what I want is not difficult to understand.

    My own Parliament, here in the UK, which is sovereign, subject only and exclusively to the democratic will of people living in the UK obeying our laws, and nobody, absolutely nobody else.

    My own legal and judicial system, operative throughout the UK, subject only and exclusively to the will of the above defined Parliament, and nobody, absolutely nobody else.

    My old British passport back again, defining me as a citizen of my own country, and backed up if necessary by the force of my own country.

    I recognise that the trade stuff is complicated, but it is surely not impossible, since everybody else outside of the EU seems to have managed it without collapsing into starvation and destitution. And if the above requirements can only be achieved at a certain financial cost, then so be it. I would still like to taste wine made by Italians and cheese made by the French. Those people are not my enemies, so do not try to make out that I somehow believe they are. I will pay the fair price for their goods, even if they are more expensive now, because doing so is a million times better than being ruled by people who have no stake in my country, recognise no accountability to it and do not give a flying turd about it.

    Why is the above so far beyond the ability of man or beast to deliver? It is after all what we have had before. I do not believe the world has changed that far as to make it impossible to achieve again.

    • Suze Burtenshaw

      Well said!

    • John Clegg

      Hear, hear.

    • TheRightToArmBears

      He’s not here yet so I’ll say it for Bobworth who normally trolls for his employers in Berlin/Brussels-
      Faci*t!! Way*ist!!
      You’re a Nasti!!

    • Ravenscar

      trade isn’t complicated Paul, politicians and vested interests [the big cartels] make it complicated.

  • jim jones

    The last time I went for a blood test in the local hospital I had to queue up behind two hundred Indians, yes I am angry.

    • Busy Mum

      My daughter’s boyfriend was the only patient in his GP surgery who paid for his prescription at the in-house pharmacy (for an injury incurred whilst working…) He deduced that he was the only taxpayer present. He was also the only Englishman present. He couldn’t understand a word that was being said amongst the other fifty-odd people in the waiting room. Yes, he is angry.

      • martianonlooker

        Wow! You must live in a non-enriched part of the country! In some places the patients and the staff and the quacks have only a passing acquaintance with England.

        • Busy Mum

          I am reasonably ‘non-enriched’ but he is greatly ‘enriched’.

          I get more enriched the further I travel from home though; it only takes 20 miles to find gold.

          • martianonlooker

            I’ve heard of that there ‘black gold’.

          • Busy Mum

            …and fool’s gold

    • Sargv

      But then the nurse was probably Indian as well, eh, eh? Indians staff all the British surgeries and hospitals! Or is it “stuff”? I always mix them.

      • MorganCourtenay

        You’re skimming past the real issue. Work culture in the white British society has been completely eroded. I actually respect the Indians for maintaining this in their culture. Better than some immigrants from other areas with a significantly less productive output. Doctors are imported from countries where the inhabitants are willing to do long night hours, as the Indian doctors etc., often do. The real issue is the NHS. It is a behemoth that cannot sustain itself and evidently, in hiring so many from overseas, does not invest in the population. A two-tier system is needed. It wouldn’t matter whether the immigrant population of the NHS were lower; the issue is the system itself. Same goes for immigration as a whole. It is all motivated by money for everyone who can afford to live in areas unaffected by large-scale immigration.

        • martianonlooker

          Well argued points.

    • MorganCourtenay

      Until the NHS is made more efficient (preferably turned into a two-tier system), you will keep having to queue up, regardless of who is in front of you.

  • Colonel Mustard

    BBC Radio 3 celebrates Finnish independence and talks enthusiastically about Finnish nationalism with no sense of irony.

    Every nationalism but English.

    • therealguyfaux ✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      “…[T]he idiot who praises, with enthusiastic tone
      All centuries but this, and every country but his own…”

      The Lord High Executioner’s “$#!t-list” immediately springs to mind…

    • Sargv

      > Every nationalism but English.

      That’s because nationalism is very bad, and BBC is happy that British competitors have it, while Brits don’t.

    • Mike Fowle

      How true. Been listening but that hadn’t struck me till you pointed it out.

    • Labour_is_bunk

      Don’t worry. The odd bit of Delius will get them off the hook (or so they think).

    • Rodney Atkinson

      For 25 years I have been promoting the concept of NATIONISM. See the article “Nationism not Nationalism” on free

  • gunnerbear

    I voted Leave….I want the UK to leave the EU in a controlled and careful manner because I view Brexit as a process that I want to benefit the UK as much as possible.

  • Timmy

    There is song I heard that said ” britons will never never never be slaves”. Guess the song was wrong.