In response to Andrew Cadman: The remorseless rise of Remainia,
MrsDoyle123 wrote:
It’s not just us, France, NZ, Canada, all led by loons.
The difference here is Brexit has forced our rulers to show their hand. Like alcoholics need to accept their addiction before they can tackle it we needed to know we were ruled by elites who regard us with utter contempt.
Now we do know that, we can do something about it. We will win in the end because there are more of us, and we have right on our side.
PierrePendre wrote:
Overturning Brexit through an accident of parliamentary numbers and lawfare has become an end in itself with no apparent thought for what comes afterwards. But an afterwards there will be and no one knows what it will be except that it will be fraught with dangers.
Remainers themselves cannot believe that the UK can simply resume its former place in Europe or that cheating the British people of what a majority of them voted for will not leave open wounds that will be hard to heal.
To take remaining first, whatever form of words may be used to soothe the return of the prodigal to Brussels’ grip, Britain’s moral status in the EU will have been fatally weakened. An openly anti-EU state forced into EU membership against its will will lack political capital and trust. We will be the court eunuchs to the Berlin, Brussels, Paris axis.
The proofs of good behaviour required from us – loss of the opt-outs, acceptance of the euro, federalisation and the abandonment of nationhood – will reinforce hostility both to the EU and the British establishment that betrayed us.
And then there are the domestic consequences. Who knows what these will be except that the social compact that united us will split like the atom. Who again in the foreseeable future will believe in the political process or even that we have a semblance of democracy left?
We will have seen that there are powerful forces that smoothly combine to override the will of the people when the interests of the establishment, seen and unseen, are threatened.
Our history is laddered with conflicts of this kind. They gave rise to the Reformation, the Civil War and the execution of a king, the Great Revolution and the overthrow of another, to the rise of parliamentary democracy and the universal franchise, to the epic struggle between Churchill and Halifax over whether to fight Hitler for our freedom.
The top rung of this ladder in 2019 seems to be the Remain campaign to negate the organic growth of the unique British nation and subsume it in an alien and hostile European bureaucracy. And for the first time in all these centuries of progress, it seems that the forces of reaction may triumph.
Gina Miller thinks this can happen without tragic consequences. She and her friends are dividing the British people from themselves and their history and there will be a price to pay for that even if we cannot yet know what form it will take.
If the Remainers do have a master plan, they better tell us what it is before it is too late.
