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Our round-up of the best, most pertinent and amusing comments of the week that have caught our eye.

In response to Chris McGovern: The reason for the two-metre rule? Stupidity,

Ivor MacAdam wrote:

I always visualise a ‘metre’ as being a yard (three of your adult-size feet, or one good pace) plus three thumbs. It’s surprisingly accurate. And although most people don’t take a tape measure with them shopping, it is unusual for anybody to leave home without their feet, legs or thumbs.

horatio wrote:

It’s not only the 2 metre rule that was made up.
Some expert, I forget who, there are so many, admitted that the schools did not need to be closed, but were in fact closed to try to convince the public that the pandemic must be bad if it meant schools had to be closed. Catch 22-style logic.

Labour_is_bunk wrote:

If people can’t grasp the concept of what a metre is, it’s a darned good job we abandoned those pesky rods, poles, kilderkins and perches then.

Malcolm Parkin replied:

Not to mention chains and furlongs and firkins. Ah . . . such wonderful measures. Metric is so vulgar.

johnathanrackham replied:

I know this is perhaps an odd thing to say but to me metric has no personality, it’s bloodless whilst imperial has a far more relatable feel. Perhaps that is because one is based on cold mathematics and the other on human experience in the real world.

In response to Gary Oliver: Kneeling Old Bill’s sickmaking servility to the mob,

Not-so-polished Corner wrote:

I have just discovered that my council offices are to be bathed in purple light tomorrow in solidarity with BLM. Their UK crowd funding page states that their aims include ‘Developing and delivering training, police monitoring and strategies for the abolition of police.’ Bearing in mind that I live in an area where the only immigration issues are those of the English moving into Wales (guilty as charged!) I cannot see this is in any way appropriate, but all criticisms on social media are shot down in flames by the virtue signalling Momentum types and I am still waiting for my councillor to reply to an email sent a couple of years ago. I am devastated at this pathetic virtue signalling.

Phil R replied:

In case you were wondering what left wing council is doing this nonsense, here it is.

Conservative is the largest political group on the council and the county has two Conservative MPs . . .

N KS wrote:

We live in a managerial state. It is what Samuel Francis described as ‘anarcho-tyranny’ where the state excessively regulates citizens lives but is unable to enforce protective law. 

I cannot go to my place of work, or spend time visiting my mother at her own home. I cannot even tweet the dictionary definition of certain words.  
Thousands can attack police officers and destroy works of art and historical monuments in an attempt to bowdlerise the culture.

Politically__Incorrect wrote:

Well, looking at the latest news, that kneeling really worked and placated the mob, who are now hurling missiles and insults at police officers who are having to run for safety. It’s a fact of life that when you show cowardice and weakness to the wrong people they will exploit it. The plod have themselves to blame for being beaten into submission.

In response to Jane Kelly: Lost in cyberspace,

The Skeptic King wrote:

‘We are all imprisoned,’ she said defiantly to no one in particular.

I love this woman.

I’m Old Fashioned wrote:

‘The producers of the programme seemed to prefer to see a lot of young people wafting about, who obviously knew a great deal about filming themselves.’

Of course they did. This whole lockdown saga has been opportunistically exploited as a technologically-facilitated orgy of narcissism. Re-engineering the locus of society around the fluency with which you can play with IT toys is another way of marginalising the old and artificially creates another justification for the young to regard them as dysfunctional and of no further use.

Dave wrote:

I suspect there would have been no lockdown before all the technology was available to facilitate it. This implies lockdown is not really a health issue, but an experiment in social control facilitated by technology.

Colonel Mustard replied:

Much modern governmental intrusion into privacy and individual freedom is done because it can be done rather than whether it is proportionate or necessary. We are governed by emotionally incontinent, risk averse cretins who are busy trashing this country’s heritage and legacies because they think that they know better.

In response to Tal Tyagi: I’m begging you – don’t sign up for a politics degree,

peter wrote:

Excellent piece and I sympathise. Bad degrees are a sinecure for academics. After a chequered start I took a computer science 2-year HND at Portsmouth Poly (as was, now it’s a uni). The excellent HND course had 23 hours+ lectures per week, so the academics were working and teaching. The poor saps doing 3-year sociology ‘degrees’ had 7 hours a week tuition. Forgetting the useless outcome, the students had an easier ride, but it was very much easier for their lecturers.

Lucas G wrote:

This is an amazing article. I studied history and it was so difficult afterwards. Thank you for this!

In response to Edmund Fordham: The Lancet and the trashing of a cure for Covid,

yaosxx wrote:

BTW – this is what the Lancet said about chloroquine in 2003 – yes 2003!

‘Chloroquine is a 9-aminoquinoline known since 1934. Apart from its well-known antimalarial effects, the drug has interesting biochemical properties that might be applied against some viral infections.

‘Chloroquine exerts direct antiviral effects, inhibiting pH-dependent steps of the replication of several viruses including members of the flaviviruses, retroviruses, and coronaviruses. Its best-studied effects are those against HIV replication, which are being tested in clinical trials. Moreover, chloroquine has immunomodulatory effects, suppressing the production/release of tumour necrosis factor α and interleukin 6, which mediate the inflammatory complications of several viral diseases.

‘We review the available information on the effects of chloroquine on viral infections, raising the question of whether this old drug may experience a revival in the clinical management of viral diseases such as AIDS and severe acute respiratory syndrome, which afflict mankind in the era of globalisation.’

yaosxx also wrote:

‘NEW DELHI: After the Union Health Ministry expressed reservations about the World Health Organisation’s (WHO) advisory to suspend hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) usage in treating COVID-19 patients, now, India’s nodal government agency ICMR (Indian Council of Medical Research) overseeing the country’s response to the coronavirus pandemic has also written to the WHO citing differences in dosage standards between Indian and international trials that could explain the efficacy issues of HCQ in treating COVID-19 patients.

Currently, as per protocols set by the Indian government to treat severe coronavirus patients requiring ICU management, HCQ dosages are administered in the following way- 1st day a heavy dose of 400mg HCQ dose once in the morning and one at night, followed by 200 mg HCQ one in the morning and one at night to be followed for the next four days. The total dosage administered to a patient in 5 days, therefore, amounts to 2400 mg.’

Speaking to ANI on the condition of anonymity, a Health Ministry official explained the context behind the ICMR and Health Ministry disagreeing with WHO’s assessment, the primary point being the wide gap in dosage levels given in India and internationally. ‘Internationally in Solidarity trial COVID-19 patients are being administered with 800 mg x 2 loading doses 6 hours apart followed by 400 mg x 2 doses per day for 10 days. The total dosage given to a patient over 11 days is about 9600 mg which is four times higher than the dose we are giving to our patients,’ informed the official.

‘This indicates that in our treatment protocol, the efficacy of HCQ is good and patients are recovering quickly with less amount of dosage being administered.’

In response to Ollie Wright: Useless arm of the law: How could police stand idle amid this anarchy?

James Newman wrote:

Policing by consent – 2020 style:

Police to mob: Do you consent to be policed?

Mob: Well, not if it involves arrests and nazi state stuff like that.

Police: OK, noted but we’ll turn up anyway, just so you’ve got some targets to throw things at.

zakisbak wrote:

Police orders will have come from the very top. Relatively low scale criminality/disorder would have been chosen over the possibility of more severe distrurbances. This was of course,like the initial response to the 2011 riots,completely the wrong response as it signalled ‘Go Ahead’ to the law breakers.

We will, of course, see fully tooled riot cops respond to the ‘Far right’ demos planned for Saturday.

We have entered mob rule, backed by the state, it’s that simple.

In response to Paul T Horgan: Politicised policing is a deadly mistake,

Jude wrote:

I have sent this to my MP via ‘They work for you’.

‘Could you inform me of the dates when the British Parliament held a minute’s silence to remember the terrible murders of two law-abiding and innocent young men Kriss Donald and Ross Parker. I have never been so ashamed to be British.’

In response to Jane Kelly: Facts Don’t Matter in the new world order,

Dorothée1312 wrote:

Despite being disgusted with the killing of George Floyd, I have made a particular point to stay away from all BLM-related protests. The racial ideology behind this organisation, and its vacuous mission statement (aiming to dismantle, among other things, ‘state structures’) is repulsive to me at every level. Ironically, by failing to step in and defend British civil society, the politically-correct powers that be are spreading and entrenching racial strife in this country. I also deeply resent the abusive and violent behaviour shown to British police, who had nothing to do with this senseless killing in Minneapolis. Neither did statues of 19th century men, regardless of their sins.

cerberus wrote:

There is a fundamental problem with Diversityism. It is that politicians will always refuse to treat all races equally. Where ordinary people are left free to make their own choices a racial group that has, say, a crime rate many times that of the rest, or tends to be more unemployable on average, is after a while going to fall from favour and fare badly. As far as politicos are concerned that is simply unacceptable. So in order to ensure equal outcomes for all they will simply trash the law of the land and have plod and the judiciary do their bidding to get the outcome they want. No free society can survive that for long. Ours hasn’t.

Diverstyism is the sure road to ruin for that reason. Politicians will make sure of it.

In response to Paul T Horgan: The blacklisting of Little Britain,

JCheeverLoophole42 wrote:

Just wondering, but it could be that TV programmes and films and books are just the start.

For example, if Stonehenge was built using slave labour, either wholly or in part, are they – the cultural dictators and history re-writers – going to demand that it should be knocked down and the stones hidden away somewhere? Also, since we are now being required to view working in servitude, even if not formally slavery, as tantamount to slavery, then anything constructed using labour where people were working in such servitude should also be removed from sight, only to be viewed under controlled and directed conditions, subject to written approval of some authority and so forth.

Lumme, at this rate they’ll be demanding we demolish Hadrian’s Wall and flatten Maiden Castle.

Mike Hunt replied:

And the Pyramids and most of Ancient Rome

JCheeverLoophole42 wrote again:

I was confining myself to the UK, but if we are going to look elsewhere, presumably besides the Pyramids and the Sphinx, there must be almost innumerable such structures and monuments the world over. I rather doubt that the Inca and Aztec structures would pass the test, nor the Great Wall of China. And in Africa, there were probably tribes that enslaved members of other tribes, so presumably those structures and remains would have to be erased.

The (dismal) possibilities seem to be endless.Ed McA replied:

 . . . and Roman cities like Bath, Colchester etc. Additionally many of the northern towns and cities such as Liverpool and Manchester, the latter once known as cottonopolis.

In response to Alp Mehmet: An open door to Hong Kong would be madness, wrote:

Take the best and brightest from HK before Singapore and Taiwan do it. The majority speak Cantonese and are looked down by the Mandarin speakers. I pointed out months ago that Bozo will be a complete failure as he is a jellyfish full of hot air with his worthless degrees in Latin and Ancient Greek. He should read about the Trojan Horse.

Seatofmypants wrote:

What it means is that China will in effect control our immigration policy.

In response to Henry George: It’s not racist to help immigrants learn English,

alw wrote:

1. Gordon Brown pulled the plug on teaching immigrants English. Our next door neighbour was a 3rd generation British Muslim who was teaching immigrants. He lost his job because of this crass decision and many lost the opportunity to learn.

2. Given the poor English of some in the NHS and care homes, the wearing of face masks for every conceivable thing makes hearing for those in need so much more difficult. Terrible particularly for the frail and senile.

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