‘Rebel Priest’ Rev Jules Gomes: Cameron and May carpet-bomb the family with their crazy ideas

On May 21, 1972, Laszlo Toth attacked Michelangelo’s Pieta in St. Peter’s Basilica. In 12 hammer blows, the Hungarian geologist shattered the Virgin’s arm at the elbow, took a large piece off one of her eyelids and smashed her nose. Toth was never charged. The authorities were convinced only a madman could indulge in such mindless destruction. Toth was hospitalised in an Italian psychiatric unit for two years and later deported to Australia. While art historians lamented the damage, leftists hailed his ‘gentle hammer’ with cries of ‘No more masterpieces!’

What was ironic about Toth was his fascination with the Bible. An acquaintance was struck by how, ‘He was always reading his Bible. He told me it was just for inspiration, that he was not really a deep believer in Christianity, but that the Bible was interesting to him as literature.’ As he raced at the statue with a sledgehammer, Toth was shouting with high-pitched Messianic fervour, ‘I am Jesus Christ, risen from the dead.’

What do two Conservative Prime Ministers David Cameron and Theresa May have in common with Laszlo Toth? Toth was mentally ill. Toth partially destroyed a lifeless statue. The destruction was not irreversible. Using a special invisible glue and powder made from the same type of marble, restorers painstakingly pieced together the fragments of Michelangelo’s masterpiece.

Cameron and May claim to be Christian. To them, the Bible is not mere literature. It is the Word of God. So why are two Conservative Prime Ministers, along with leading Conservative ministers rushing at the family—the icon of civilisation, the pièce de résistance of society—and smashing it to the extent that the destruction cannot be reversed? What is conservative or Christian or even mentally sane about this pseudo-messianic iconoclasm?

  • David Cameron led the insane Gadarene rush down the hillside with the legalisation of “gay” marriage despite coming close to being ousted as Tory leader over the issue, says Lord Ashcroft in his biography of the Prime Minister, Call Me Dave. Even Mary, Cameron’s mother, said, ‘I know, but David just won’t be told.’ Some Mothers Do ‘Ave ‘Em!
  • Theresa May is now pushing same-sex marriage on the church. She says her father, the Rev’d Hubert Brasier, would have supported blessings for gay couples. This month she backed the introduction of same-sex marriage in Northern Ireland.
  • Under May’s rule, the education quango Ofsted has become more draconian in forcing sexual politics down the throats of children. This month, Ofsted threatened to shut down the orthodox Jewish Vishnitz Girls School for not indoctrinating children in the virtues of homosexuality and gender reassignment.
  • This month, a report produced by Wilton House, an executive agency of the UK Foreign and Commonwealth Office said that Evangelical Christians in the Global South should be expected to ‘reinterpret’ the Bible to make it compatible with LGBT ideology. ‘The recommendations, if implemented, would massively reverse freedom of religion across the globe,’ said Barnabas Fund, a leading international charity supporting persecuted Christians around the world.
  • This week, Equalities Minister Justine Greening said she wants to change the law so that people are free to pick their own gender and change the gender on their birth certificate at will without a doctor’s diagnosis.

No sane person would question the idea of equal rights for homosexuals. To discriminate against anybody because of their sexual orientation is barbaric. But to conflate marriage, procreation and the family with gay rights, is disingenuous and destructive. If you can call any arrangement a family—never mind if it is two men, a threesome, or a transgender loon marrying mother earth on a full moon night—the word family has completely lost its meaning. Once advocates of gay marriage succeed in smashing the traditional definition of marriage and redefining it as no longer restricted to one man and one woman, they will continue to redefine it until it has no definition left.

Masha Gessen, author and gay activist admits to this agenda in a radio interview, ‘It’s a no-brainer that [homosexuals] should have the right to marry, but I also think equally that it’s a no-brainer that the institution of marriage should not exist…. Fighting for gay marriage generally involves lying about what we are going to do with marriage when we get there—because we lie that the institution of marriage is not going to change, and it should change. And again, I don’t think it should exist.’ ‘Being queer means pushing the parameters of sex, sexuality, and family, and, in the process, transforming the very fabric of society,'  says Paula Ettelbrick, former legal director of Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund.

When our Conservative leaders are de facto nihilists, tearing down fences before asking why they were put up in the first place, it is time to ask Douglas Murray if he will write a sequel to his book and call it The Strange Death of the Conservative Party. When he was Chief Rabbi, Sir Jonathan Sacks described the maniacal destruction of the family: ‘Today, we have divorced sex from love; love from commitment; commitment from marriage; marriage from having children; and having children from bearing responsibility for nurturing them and bringing them up. It is as if somebody had planted a bomb in the very midst of our most sacred institution and all we have left is fragments.’

‘Abolition of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists,’ wrote Karl Marx in The Communist Manifesto in 1848. In 2017, ensconced in Des Teufels Lustschloss (The Devil’s Pleasure Palace), Karl Marx is almost certainly raising a toast to Theresa May. ‘Abolition of the family! Even the leader of the Conservative Party joins me in celebrating this infamous proposal of the Communists,’ Marx is gleefully telling Lucifer.

Rev Jules Gomes

  • Uusikaupunki

    “This month, Ofsted threatened to shut down the orthodox Jewish Vishnitz Girls School for not indoctrinating children in the virtues of homosexuality and gender reassignment.”

    Tell me when they are going to threaten the same in moslem faith schools and madrassas.

    • Shaunr19

      Nah…! That’d take courage. They like picking on Jews and Christians who, at least for the moment, don’t do the violence thing like Islam does.

      • For the moment. As somebody said the other day, “When most people riot, cities burn; when Anglo Saxons riot, nation burn”.

        • James Chilton

          Reminds me of the revolutionary mob who demanded “Bread and Justice”, and then burned down all the bakeries.

          • It does, indeed. But that is hardly unheard of and we tend to be slow to anger, but once aroused, very resolute indeed.

  • ratcatcher11

    Homosexuals make up 1.7% of society so why are they allowed to achieve such fascist destruction of our institutions? They are used as a battering ram by the left who want to destroy our society and impose their Marxist ideology.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing”

      A lot of it comes down to our silence and complacency on the matter. You don’t see hetero-pride marches for example.. Perhaps we never felt a need for them. I wonder whether we should re-consider.

      • JabbaPapa

        You don’t see hetero-pride marches for example

        You mean like this ?

        http://laregledujeu.org/files/2013/01/manifestation-contre-mariage-tous-a-paris-dimanche-13-janvier-.jpg

        • James Chilton

          In France, large numbers have marched in support of the natural family. I don’t recall any similar public demonstrations in the UK.

          • The_Pr1soner

            I was in Paris when one of the marches occurred. Completely peaceful. It was essentially a waste of time – the legislation had already been passed – but on they went. They didn’t give up, and still haven’t. It’s impressive.

          • JabbaPapa

            Indeed, the ghastly Hollande simply decided to ignore the millions upon millions who were, and are, completely opposed to this insane ideology.

    • Cassandra

      The rights and feelings of minorities trample all over the wishes of the majority, backed by craven politicians. If that isn’t tyranny, please tell me what is?

  • Charitas Lydia

    These conservative leaders have lost their way and are pleasing all those who would actually throw them to dogs if and when necessary. I wonder what would Ms. May and Ms. Greening do if one of their own children or grandchildren becomes a transgender and tries to commit suicide or actually commits ( God forbid) as a result of identity crises and huge physiological problems that entail such transgender surgeries. Are they even thinking of the consequences of such evil steps they are taking to suit the LGBTQ community? These politicians are blind and do not see that they are destroying their own families by destroying the institutions of marriage and family.

    • Shaunr19

      “I wonder what would Ms. May and Ms. Greening do if one of their own children or grandchildren becomes a transgender and tries to commit suicide or actually commits (God forbid) as a result of identity crises and huge physiological problems that entail such transgender surgeries.”

      Highly unlikely as neither of them have children. Mrs May can’t have children, and Justine Greening is gay.

      • CRSM

        No.
        A troupe of monkeys in a banana tree are gay.
        Greening is simply a miserable old muncher.

      • Charitas Lydia

        Okay, but my point remains the same. Do they not have any children in their own immediate families? Do they not love them at all? Do they not have any love an compassion at all for children? Would they like if the children of their won brothers and sisters commit suicide as a result of this LGBT stupidity?

        Greening may adopt a child to satisfy her maternal instinct and just in case she loves the child she may know the pain of it coming suicide as a result of being brought up in an abnormal family of two mums and houseful of gays. Some may even sexually abuse the child… She has lost her mind and she wants others to lose theirs.

    • Politically__Incorrect

      What would they do if there own children committed suicide? I think the usual cop-out is to blame social conservatives for challenging their delusions.

    • Alan Llandrindod Wells

      They are not Conservatives.

    • Bruce Atkinson

      Yep. You know the definition of a “politician”— a person who thinks he (or she) knows the way the crowd is moving and runs out in front and pretends to lead. Cameron, May, and Greening certainly fall into this category. But the crowd is motivated by glands and not brains. No good end can come from this.

  • JabbaPapa

    Once advocates of gay marriage succeed in smashing the traditional definition of marriage and redefining it as no longer restricted to one man and one woman, they will continue to redefine it until it has no definition left … except in the Holy Catholic Sacrament of Matrimony.

    They have already pretty much destroyed civil marriage, and such blinkered and failed churches as the CoE will jump into the destruction in their wake, but the Sacrament will persist.

    Mark {10:3} But in response, he said to them, “What did Moses instruct you?”
    {10:4} And they said, “Moses gave permission to write a bill of divorce and to dismiss her.”
    {10:5} But Jesus responded by saying: “It was due to the hardness of your heart that he wrote that precept for you.
    {10:6} But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.
    {10:7} Because of this, a man shall leave behind his father and mother, and he shall cling to his wife.
    {10:8} And these two shall be one in flesh. And so, they are now, not two, but one flesh.
    {10:9} Therefore, what God has joined together, let no man separate.”

  • Politically__Incorrect

    When a person goes insane they tend to deteriorate and often end up doing something so crazy that those who see their insanity, typically health workers, will intervene. What usually follows is a period of incarceration and medication until they are no longer considered a risk to themselves or others. There will be no such safety net for those suffering a mental breakdown over gender identity or sexuality. Why? Because all this has been redefined as normal i.e. there is no problem, so no help. It will be like a bottomless abyss for anyone who hasn’t been able to fully buy in to the gender delusion. It is hard to see how society can survive this self-destructive revolution. Perhaps it is an act of mass-suicide?

  • Strong families stand against an overbearing, authoritarian state, which is exactly the type of state “progressives” like Cameron and May seek. The irony is that like all the best despots, they assume to themselves positive sounding titles that hide their nefarious agenda. Destroying the traditional family is neither “progress” nor “liberal”!

  • CRSM

    I’m not sure that mentioning Jonathan Sacks in conjunction with normal sexuality is sensible.

  • ReefKnot

    When a gay woman ‘marries’ another gay woman, how is that ‘marriage’ consummated ?

    • Benthos

      You can find the answer on Xhamster.

    • Andy

      Do you mind not asking such questions before Luncheon.

    • Tricia

      It is Not! If you read the Same Sex Marriage Act 2014 you will see that this was a hurdle they could not overcome, so decided to make a 2 track system. It states that a man and woman who do not consummate are not married (same as before when an annulment can be sought) but a same sex couple are married (even though they cannot consummate). A same sex couple cannot therefore commit adultery because they have never consummated. When is a marriage not a marriage?
      Answer: when there are 2 people of the same sex who cannot consummate or commit adultery.
      Government cannot make these changes apart from on a fraudulent basis as marriage predates Government and requires a procreative capacity to enable the survival of the human species.

      • Cassandra

        What I find particularly repellent is a man referring to his same- sex married partner as his ‘wife’ or ‘husband’.

        • James Chilton

          I also find that repellent.

          There was a ghastly picture in the paper a few weeks ago, of a man giving another man an engagement ring and saying they were just “a couple in love”.

        • Tricia

          Me too. And the indoctrination of the Beeb – the latest advert is an older make/female couple at a bus stop holding hands and kissing and being dragged off by the police. The punch line being “how can being in love be against the law”. My Answer: it never has been. It was sodomy that was against the law. I have never heard of a woman being arrested. We are finding out why there was very good reason for Section 28 which the traitorous Blair repealed – leaving our children open to indoctrination.

          • JabbaPapa

            the latest advert is an older make/female couple at a bus stop holding hands and kissing and being dragged off by the police. The punch line being “how can being in love be against the law”

            The Marxist ideologues who promote this sort of crap deserve to be dragged off by the Police instead.

  • Benthos

    Spot on Dr Gomes, a depressing read. I was willing to give May a chance but now after the election debacle and surrounding herself with half-wits like Hammond she can whistle.

  • Don Benson

    Rational thought depends on accepting what is indisputably true even when it is at the cost of a belief you hold dear. Once you start tweaking the truth as a matter of convenience (to fit in with other priorities) you are imprisoning your rational mind and making it subject to what you want it to tell you – this amounts to starting an internal battle within your cognitive function. And the problem is that this battle is cumulative; it will grow unless you backtrack, commit to accepting what is true, and thus liberate your rational self once again.

    The whole gay “marriage” issue relies on imprisonment of rational thought. And because it is a deliberately malign project which has now been successfully imbedded in our national politics it is spreading like a cancer which is out of control and pursuing ever more foolish and coercive notions. And the frightening thing is that, because it is irrational, many of our politicians are progressively losing their ability to recognise the utter folly of what they are doing – there’s no obvious way of returning to sanity. And we know that this insanity is spreading right through our institutions: judiciary, the media, armed forces and police, schools and universities, and of course the church.

    So from what source can the vital backtrack come? Once you could have expected the national church to have called the nation back to its senses; well not any more, not with the present disastrous hierarchy. But there is a movement within the church which recognises and repudiates the calamitous direction on which its leadership is heading and is prepared to fight back:
    https://anglicanlive.wordpress.com/.

    If you recognise the deeply serious state of our nation and its church, visit
    this site, sing up (and tell others about it).

    • Don Benson

      Alternatively you might find it better just to sign up!

    • Charitas Lydia

      Signed this petition. I would join you in asking every reader who is committed to the family and traditional marriage to sign this petition.

    • JabbaPapa

      I can’t really sign that, as I think the only hope for those seeking to combine keeping their Anglican traditions within Christian orthodoxy are the Anglo-Catholic Ordinariates.

    • Dant e

      The true church of Christ is the salt and light and God always has a remnant until the man of sin overcomes them at the end. If the people you`re referring to are of the bride of the King, they`re only a part, regardless never give up hope, the light shines brightest in the darkest night.

  • James Chilton

    “No sane person would question the idea of equal rights for homosexuals.”

    Okay, but if these “equal rights” include the “right to marry”, and, when granted, this leads to the destruction of traditional families created by the union of one man with one woman, what ought to be done? No one will say.

    • JabbaPapa

      There is no “right” to marry — the notion of a “right to marry” is pure leftist ideology attempting to destroy marriage as such.

      • James Chilton

        I agree. That’s why I put the phrase in ironic quotation marks.

  • Enemy Coast Ahead

    Theresa May is every bit a part of the authoritarian big-state left as Jeremy Corbyn is – in fact much of what passes for government policy under this Conservative government could just as well have come from the loony left of the Labour Party.

    • HardcastleCraggs

      Harold Wilson’s Labour government was way to the right of this one.

      • And Clement Atlee’s government would now be regarded as extreme right!

  • the future is female

    You conservatives still don’t get it, do you?

    It’s over.

    We’ve won.

    Britain is a progressive country now.

    Even former bastions of conservatism like the Army, Daily Telegraph and Church are now feminist, gay institutions.

    • Daniel

      You fall into two errors firstly you under-estimate your achievements, not only is Britain ‘progressive’ nearly the entire world follows your disfiguring religion. Secondly, you over-estimate your achievement for what you have done shall not endure but shall be overturned. But yes you are right it is over, far more than you know.

      • the future is female

        Nonsense. It’s only just beginning.

        I am wildly optimistic about the future.

        The next generation will be the first in history to view lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights as totally normal and self-evident. It will be totally normal for mothers to be working and earning more than men.

        The possibilities are endless.

        • Phil R

          The possibilities are indeed endless.

          Until the money runs out.

          Then? Well then historically things turned nasty. Perhaps it won’t happen this time. Perhaps we will form a committee, (equal reps from all minorities of course) maybe draft a few new laws.

          But will anyone be listening to the committee? Or obeying the law in any capacity?

          After all money and security has always been the benchmark for whether a worldview works or not.

          • choccycobnobs

            I hope the money doesn’t run out, I quite fancy being a kept man. Let the radical feminists slog their guts out to an early death.

        • Bruce Atkinson

          A wild beast, you are. Manic and grandiose as well. Enjoy your delusions while you can.

        • /()43 |_|K19

          The next generation after you is already at secondary school (judging your age from online pics of you).

          And they hate your lot.

        • Charitas Lydia

          You are wild…

      • the future is female

        We cannot be overturned now, for there is no longer any beachhead, any starting-point from which a counter-revolution could happen.

        So total is our victory now that I feel confident enough to be completely open about this. We disdain to conceal our goals and aims.

        • Daniel

          So says every dominate religion and ideology and tyrant in history, But no your victory is not total just when it appears to be then it shall be ended.

        • choccycobnobs

          Gordon bennet. The last person with such delusions met their end in a bunker in Berlin.

        • Bruce Atkinson

          Enjoy your satanic pretend victory while you can, it is only temporary. History is on the side of God– the only God, the Father of Jesus Christ

        • /()43 |_|K19

          Brexit

        • AKM

          Sure, it will work really well until women realise they’ve been conned and lied to and that all the institutions designed to protect and nurture them have been torn down and their sons, brothers and fathers have been relegated to second class citizen status.

          All the signs are that a counter-revolution is brewing and it’s going to be hilarious to watch. This is your high-point, enjoy it while you can.

          • Bruce Atkinson

            In Women Who Make the World Worse, National Review’s Kate O’Beirne takes on the world’s leading feminists. She opposes their propagandistic Leftist emotionalism and self-important grandstanding with irrefutable evidence that the feminist movement — including their leading women — has hurt women far more than it has helped them over the last forty years.
            Our listeners should check it out.

            Of course our silly fake future child will not have the cojones to touch it.

        • Bruce Atkinson

          In Women Who Make the World Worse, National
          Review’s Kate O’Beirne takes on America’s leading feminists. She opposes their propagandistic Leftist emotionalism and self-important grandstanding with irrefutable evidence that
          the feminist movement — including their leading women — has hurt women far more than it has helped them over the last forty years. Our listeners should check it out.

        • Reborn

          I suggest that you are a reactionary man who wants women to look
          dim & silly.
          Like Mrs Brown, or a tranny comedian, you fit into a stereotype too
          perfectly to be genuine.

    • ChaucerChronicle

      You liberals don’t get it. The sex impulse has triumphed: your children are not consumers of porn; porn has consumed them.

      Privately, senior army officers are disgusted; the only reason that they do not trigger a coup d’etat is beacuse miltary academies on both side of the Atlantic continue to teach the doctrine that the armed forces must remain under political control. That doctrine is based on late 19th century analysis of civil conflict. It’s only a matter of time before they too ‘progress’.

      Who owns The Daily Telegraph?

      The Church: its collapse is inevitable. Who wants to hear the doctrines on pansexuality which daily projected by the media?

    • James Chilton

      You female impersonators “don’t get it”. We know that you’re jesters in drag.

      • the future is female

        You’re misgendering me. I identify as female.

        • James Chilton

          As tiresome sock puppet who posts under several different names and “genders”, it’s time you stopped masquerading as a woman.

        • /()43 |_|K19

          Your gender, as well as your personality and even political orientation are genetically determined at birth. You have no power to change them. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it was blocking out the sun.

          • Bruce Atkinson

            Not exactly. Everything we are and do are associated with three things: Nature (genes), Nurture (environment, learning), and Choice. The first is determined, the second begins determined but changes as we mature, the third is never determined and so, as adults, we are totally responsible for our choices.

            Our genes are determined (like sex/gender) and our childhood environment was likely out of our capacity to change. But as we mature we have increasingly more choice. Because of original sin and lack of knowledge, many of our choices are off base, even majorly sinful. Katie has made some choices and commitments which we can easily see and she likes to present them “in our face.” She is accountable for these before God.

          • JabbaPapa

            Actually, the conceptual dividing line between Nature and Nurture has become increasingly blurred by research into fetal and post-birth development.

            Just one example — the start of language learning is now known to occur within the womb, and it is known that this engenders observable structural differences in the brain.

            Also in a grey area between the two is the passing of antibodies and other forms of disease resistance from the mother both in the womb and via breast feeding, and from the father and siblings after birth (and indeed to an extent from the father prior to birth).

            Otherwise, the position you’ve expressed here is overly positivist-materialist.

            It’s true enough as far as it goes, but a great deal of who we are and what we do is from the divine Origin of our created souls, and from our divinely-inspired consciousness and conscience, as the Spirit seeks to bring us into the Love of God via the Graces given to us in our souls.

          • Bruce Atkinson

            Actually, the research you presented are examples of clarifying (not blurring) the dividing line between Nature and Nurture. Likewise that line is becoming less and less blurred due to DNA/genetic and neurological/brain research. For example, men and women’s brains have been found to be much more different than anyone thought. There are far more neural connections between the two hemispheres (and throughout the cortex) in women. The result is that men, in general, tend to think more categorically and can be more goal-oriented and task-focused while women are better at multi-tasking, intuition, and picking up on non-verbal signals (like from babies).

          • JabbaPapa

            This entire area is deeply theoretical.

            Anatomically, women have sharper senses on average than men, because their smaller bodies and smaller organs mean that their sensory clusters are gathered closer together, and it is quite clear that variant perception will lead to variations in brain development, therefore brain structure.

            examples of clarifying (not blurring) the dividing line between Nature and Nurture

            I strongly disagree — the notion that Nurture occurs only after birth, and Nature only before has been discovered to be untenable.

        • Bruce Atkinson

          You reveal yourself as deluded.

    • Shazza

      I do not dispute that you have won. You have. Enjoy it while you can. It ain’t going to last.

      Your Pyrrich victory will be short-lived.

      Your present BFs do not approve of feminism/homosexuality/transgender rights/gender equality and all the other ‘progressive’ ideals that you hold so dear.

      Gaze towards the ME, gaze towards what is happening to ‘secular’, ‘progressive’ Turkey, cast your eyes on the photographs of women in the Shah of Persia’s reign and linger lovingly on those same women in Iran now.

      That ‘the future is female’ is your future and it ain’t female friendly.

      • the future is female

        What makes you think we can’t convert those who are here, to progressive feminism?

        Since the 1960s we have successfully overturned 1500 years of Christian traditions and morals.

        What makes you think we can’t do the same to Islam, which is far less established in the West than the Church ever was?

        • Shazza

          Really?

          It seems to me that your lot totally ignore FGM and other assorted ‘cultural’ practices that your male BFs inflict on their womenfolk; how’s that “convert those” working out so far?

          Could you please let me know of any country anywhere in the world which successfully assimilated your BFs and managed to maintain their own culture?

          For your own sake, and I’m not trying to be facetious, you should do some homework. From your comments I would imagine that you are a millennial and were ‘educated’ in Blair’s “education, education, education” system?

          Do you have any idea of the histories of countries like Lebanon, Egypt etc.?
          Do you actually know what the Crusades were about?
          Have you ever heard of Constantinople?

          • the future is female

            My generation is the best-educated in history.

            More people are taking A-Levels and going to uni than ever before.

            We have more knowledge at our fingertips than ever before, thanks to the Internet and smartphone technology.

            Most people in your generation are jealous because very few of you were able to go to uni.

            There’s no need to take out your bitterness on us.

          • Shazza

            I was educated not indoctrinated. Sadly, you and your generation are the beneficiaries of revisionist history.

            You still have not answered my questions. Try doing some real old fashioned research and not just consulting Wikipedia.

            BTW Why would I be bitter? Your comment merely reflects your inexperience in real life, it belongs in nursery school.

            Grow up.

          • JabbaPapa

            I was educated not indoctrinated

            hear hear

          • choccycobnobs

            “Grow up” Therein is TFIF’s problem. If you read her line “people in your generation”. It seems likely that her experience of education is post Blair’s Education, Education, education and 50% of youngsters going to university. Therefore, we seem to be dealing with little more than an adolescent.

        • JabbaPapa

          Since the 1960s we have successfully overturned 1500 years of Christian traditions and morals

          No you haven’t — and you are extremely deluded if you believe it.

          • choccycobnobs

            Chill! She has daddy issues, so it is understandable that a vicar, pastor or priest would represent a father figure and TFIF would become all anti.

        • /()43 |_|K19

          You can’t because political orientation is determined in part genetically.

          You only overturned some old institutions, not the human factors that gave rise to them.

          Islam plans to do to you what you say you will do to it.

        • Charitas Lydia

          Ha..ha..ha…what arrogance!!! Try living in Pakistan with your LGBT lifestyle. Who do you think you are? Some magic wand that ISIS, Muslim Brotherhood etc., will be mesmerised by your charm? Go and see you face in the mirror!

    • choccycobnobs

      When you were at school, did your class hate you?

    • /()43 |_|K19

      Kate, if you believed that, you’d be the conservative wouldn’t you? Because you’d want to resist change.

    • Charitas Lydia

      Gays and feminists are bigots calling others bigots. If they had any tolerance they would not want to have their own ways and abuse their rights which have been graciously granted to them. God has the final word, anyway. He alone knows who is a real gay and who is a pretending to be gay with huge selfish agenda.

    • Bruce Atkinson

      Like those who must post in all caps, your need to use bold type reveals your own insecurity. You want to be heard and are afraid you will not be. You come on to a conservative Christian website…. why? Because you get free attention. Negative attention is better than none at all, right?

      • the future is female

        I post in bold because it subverts the traditional notion of the patriarchy that women should be meek and submissive, “seen and not heard”.

        I am unashamedly a strong, opinionated, outspoken woman.

        Men, or rather weak men, find that difficult to handle.

        What about you?

        • Bruce Atkinson

          Chuckle. Difficult to handle? You are amusing in your need to denigrate males; I think they call it misandry (opposite of misogyny). You have confirmed my opinion about your insecurity. Otherwise, you would not need to rebel against normal online courtesy. My guess is that you are not much listened to in your everyday life. Here you can at least be heard. I feel for you.

        • JabbaPapa

          /face-palm/

        • Sargv

          > I am unashamedly a strong, opinionated, outspoken woman.

          Is this why you post anonymously? Yes. You are only allowed to speak here while wearing online niqab that hides your face. Good.

    • Sargv

      > Britain is a progressive country now.

      There is not such thing as “progressive country”. There is such a thing as “progressive cancer” though.

  • I’m all for equal rights, but most pressure groups want extra rights.

    Most people, I would think, now believe that women have equal rights, but not the feminists, they want more and more. It should not be a right to have, say, equal numbers of female employees in a company unless it can be shown that they are available and can do the job as well as the male employees. But competence apparently is no longer a reason for employing someone.

    I fail to see how someone who is not physically or biologically capable of fulfilling a right can demand a particular right. When two men or two women manage to produce a child without outside assistance I might consider gay marriage a possibility.

  • Daniel

    The article is pretty much spot on. There is one Theological point I should like to make, given the article is by a reverend, and that is that Christians do not consider the Bible to be the Word of God (this is an Islamic view concerning the Koran) Christians believe Christ is the Word of God. The Scriptures are that which testifies about Him, not the Word of God Himself.

    • Dant e

      In my view God transcends such things, when His Words and Glory are expressed, they are living and true forever and in any format, they`re full of Life, endless learning. Yeshua HaMashiach is the Word of God but His Words are His Words and the Bible is His Words expressed through His servants.

      • Daniel

        I don’t disagree with the point that the scriptures contain the words of God in that He or His servants uttered them. My point is that we should reserve the description Word of God (singular) to Christ Himself.

        • Dant e

          Understood, does it depend on the heart and mind set of each individual when thinking about it? My thinking on this is that the Words of the Bible are Him speaking to us, they aren`t separate from Him. The Words are timeless and living because they are Him, as if He is speaking them in the moment and at all times through history. When I refer to the Bible as the Word of God I`m thinking about The Lord Jesus speaking to us, not merely reading a book with His words written in them.

    • Coniston

      Christ is the Logos (often translated as Word), however the Logos is the Divine Reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning; it naturally includes the written word of scripture.

      • Daniel

        True, but even as the Logos, the Pantokrator, orders, upholds, and gives form and meaning to the cosmos, so also in His Divinity He is other than the cosmos. Likewise, whilst the words of scriptures are given (sometimes spoken by God) they are, as written down, part of the cosmos, that is part of creation. Separating therefore the Creator from the creation the description ‘Word of God (Λόγο του Θεού)’ pertains not to the scriptures which record His words, but only to God the Word Himself.

  • ChaucerChronicle

    Rev Gomes,

    What treachery is this:

    ‘No sane person would question the idea of equal rights for homosexuals. To discriminate against anybody because of their sexual orientation is barbaric.’

    Judaeo-Christians are discriminated against in the public sector and arrested by the police for upholding the proposition that God loves men.

    CS Lewis taught us that when you get a sum wrong you retrace your steps to discover the error.

    The works of the great Greek philosopher Plato snigger at homosexuality (because he understood the policy implications for society).

    We rail against abortion and wish to reverse the law: is that barbaric?

    Your forefathers understood why laws against homosexuality needed to be instituted – for they too understood the policy implications.

    The American crosss-cultural psychologist Lawrence Kohlberg establsihed the thesis that in the absence of a well articulated morality in the general population citizens used the law as a moral reference-point.

    If you legitimise homosexuality as a public norm then, in the end, there is no rational point at which sexual practices can be conclusively opposed.

    ‘If God does not exist then all is permissable.’

    Doestevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

    • Phil R

      I suspect that the Rev had to write this in order for TCW not to be prosecuted.

      Thought Police is a reality in the UK

      • choccycobnobs

        A thousand upticks.

    • Reborn

      If man made religions exist, then all is permissable.’

      • JabbaPapa

        Is that supposed to be some sort of fortune cookie zen teaching ?

        • Reborn

          No.
          Merely a statement of fact based on easily discernible history
          Try the crusades against heretics in medieval France, through to
          the unspeakable deaths given to the Armenians in 1915 by the Turks.
          Then there’s Saudi Arabia which has gullies for blood to run through
          outside the Great Mosque in Riyadh, much like the Protestant witch
          prison in Bamberg.
          The Islamic State, an informal version of Saudi Arabia, conducts vile tortures & executions in the name of its heathen god.
          I could go on, but as my old grannie used to say
          There’s none so deaf as them as won’t hear.

          • JabbaPapa

            aaaah OK, right, so you were just inventing some more complete bollox out of thin air again, and blaming religion in general for some politically motivated civil war in France, and the particular atrocities of one particular religion

            “Islam is evil, therefore all religions are evil” ????!!??!!?

            gotcha, thanks for the (hrm ! hrm !) “clarification”

  • the future is female

    A lot of insecure males feel threatened and emasculated by female equality (which is all that Feminism is).

    Get over it, boys.

    #MasculinitySoFragile

    • ChaucerChronicle

      Wrong.

      We care for our sisters, mothers and daughters.

      Someone who is insecure will not sacrifice their sustenance on the behalf of another.

      Your vision of the future is self-destructive: you cannot attack 50% of the poulation without serious political consequences: Tatchell and Greer.

    • JabbaPapa

      oh FFS please stop promoting this hateful, sexist, and mendacious bollox

    • martianonlooker

      Didn’t you promise to push off to Canada if we voted for Brexit? Why are you still here then? Could we interest you in a ticket to become an Is il jihadi bride? Our loss their gain. Go on, fight for feminism’s cause where it would be worthwhile.

    • Guardian’s Quitter

      Hi Kate, still a loon then?

      • Benthos

        Always.

    • The Buttscratcher Jimmy

      I love you Kate. Ive always wondered, do you have, a Brazilian a Landing strip or is it a full natural welcome mat?

    • /()43 |_|K19

      Feminism is 80% Cultural Marxism and 20% the old “battle of the sexes”.

      Men and women differ in body and mind, and both of these are clearly measurable. In the most egalitarian societies (i.e. oil-rich Sweden), women are more likely to self-select into stereotypically female lifestlyes.

      Your “equality” obsession is cute, but not nearly as applicable to the real world as you think.

      • Bruce Atkinson

        “Cute” like the dead, putrid, rotting rat my father once found in the basement.

      • the future is female

        “Men and women differ in body and mind”

        The vast majority of those “differences” are due to societal factors, such as the fact that girls and boys are encouraged from an early age to have different interests.

        • JabbaPapa

          The vast majority of those differences are anatomical and biological in nature or origin.

    • Benthos

      There you go out with your daddy issues again.

    • Bruce Atkinson

      Testosterone-driven women are certainly a curiosity to us, but hardly emasculating or security-reducing. If such women did not love men and masculinity so much, they would not be trying to be like us. Trying indeed.

    • Daniel

      Feminism is not about female equality, it is about women taking on male gender and then redefining it. Feminism is nothing more than the abolition of femininity in the pursuit of pseudo-masculinity.

      • the future is female

        Define “femininity” in concrete terms. I dare you.

        • Dant e

          As you can evidently identify and critique masculinity you should be able to define femininity yourself. I double dare you.

          • the future is female

            I love it when males like you try to mansplain things like feminism and femininity.

          • Dant e

            Did you just assume my gender?

          • the future is female

            Are you male?

          • JabbaPapa

            cripes you’re a moron

        • Daniel

          What it is to be female, from the biological fundamentals to the emanating personal and social characteristics, to the localised cultural manifestations of the underline universal difference.

    • Sargv

      > A lot of insecure males feel threatened and emasculated by female equality (which is all that Feminism is).

      Not men is afraid of women. A lot of men afraid of The State and it’s repressive mechanisms. Women without the state support? Saudi Arabia.

  • Naviro

    Would it be impossbile for us to create a separate state within the UK?

    It could be called the LGBT anti-Chrisitan state of Brighton.

    It would be home to all cultural marxists,including but not limited to:
    – feminists
    – gender benders,
    – homose*uals
    – homose*uals-peadophilics
    – baby killers
    – anti-heteronormative family activists
    – muslims
    – haters of free speech
    – and all militant allies and supporters of the above.

    Then they can have the depraved evil cesspit of a society they desire. Man can marry donkey, women can be men, children can be homosexualised the moment they start nursery, and babies can be killed with abandon.

    And the rest of us can get on with our lives free from harrasment and persecution by these vile lunatics.

    Sadly, I know this will never happen, primarliy because the point of marxism is not to contain itself within a single state or region, but rather to spread across the entire (western) world and destroy civilisation as we know it.

    • Well, you could always ship them to California, they want to secede anyway, and a good many of us have been known to say, “Good riddance to bad garbage.”

    • martianonlooker

      Can I add to your list?…..Green party, seemingly Brighton is halfway there.

  • Guardian’s Quitter

    May and Cameron are not Conservatives, and it makes me bloody cross when I hear them described as such.
    What they are is beyond me, some kind of bliarite clone, operating on the vile Common Purpose ticket I assume.
    The country is screaming out for a true Conservative Government, leaders who will lead.

  • David

    In this county, true conservatism has now shrunk to a minority within The Conservative Party, perhaps typified by Mr Rees-Mogg, websites like this one and the theologically conservative, orthodox sections of all the mainline Christian denominations. I would imagine that there are also true conservatives within the Jewish and Sikh faiths but I have no direct experience of those areas of our society.
    It is indeed very marked the way that the leadership of the so called Conservative Party has sold out to cultural Marxism. Even in terms of cold, calculating political gain this is not very clever, as where do they think that they will find their future voters from once the older, more conservative generation has died ?

  • Cassandra

    No sane person would question the idea of equal rights for homosexuality sexuals? Really?

    Homosexuality is quite clearly a gross psychosexual miswiring. It is to be in the grip of a condition, every bit as much as, say, someone on the autism spectrum or who suffers from bi polar.

    It was declassified as a mental pathology by the American Psychological Association back in 1974 purely because of pressure from the homosexual lobby in a political climate of intensifying political correctness. I recall it happening at the time.

    Gay people resist the idea that they are not ‘normal’ and their sexual orientation is treatable for reasons of self esteem and ideology. However, other strong sexual preferences such as paedophilia remain classified as treatable pathologies.

    Homosexuals should of course have equal rights – to the point when these rights infringe on those who are not homosexual, find the proximity of those who are to be an uncomfortable experience, and / or strongly disapproved of homosexual practice for religious or philosophical reasons.

    To have homosexuals forced on a B&B or a bakery whose proprietors strongly object to their practice for religious or other reasons is plain tyranny.

    As for marriage between gay people – that’s a travesty which demeans the institution, which is what it’s backers intend for it.

    • ChaucerChronicle

      Outstanding!

    • Sargv

      There are two problems with modern homosexuality in the West:
      1) “gay rights” is being used as a ram against the freedom of association (“you have no right to be left alone and self-segregate”);
      2) “gay rights” are being used to sexualise public life and destigmatise the extreme promiscuity. Which is just another form of addiction. Supporting it makes as much sense as praising alcoholism or drug abuse. “You are so brave, you built your life around shooting heroin. I’m proud of you!”

  • Bugle

    Jules Gomes commands respect. But where are the rest of the clergy? Their stance appears to be a mixture of ‘hoping it will all go away’ and shameful appeasement. Cameron, May and their appointees only get away with this stuff because very few people resist. Imagine how powerful it would be if a sizeable minority of the C of E said, “Enough!”

  • Pretty Polly

    Democratic mandates delivered under a rights without responsibilities universal suffrage system are leading to the collapse of Western civilsation and our traditional way of life..

    • the future is female

      No, you’re wrong there.

      Women fought and died for the right to vote.

      No civilised society can contemplate disenfranchising women. We would never allow it.

      • Pretty Polly

        Oh you mean you don’t want reform because you want Western civilisation to collapse.

        That of course was always obvious..

        • the future is female

          I’m not proud of the fact we colonised and enslaved half the world and created concentration camps, poison gas and nuclear bombs.

          Like Gandhi said when asked what he thought about Western civilisation:

          “That would be a good idea.”

          • Pretty Polly

            Oh dear, you made a little mistake there which confirms my point..

            Your original post before you edited it was as follows..

            the future is female
            I don’t give a sh*t about “Western civilisation”. I’m not proud of the fact we colonised and enslaved half the world and created concentration camps, poison gas and nuclear bombs.
            Like Gandhi said when asked what he thought about Western civilisation:
            “That would be a good idea.”
            4:29 p.m., Sunday July 30

            So it’s game set and match to me.

            Thanks !

          • the future is female

            No, you’re wrong there.

          • Pretty Polly

            Nope, I’ve got your original post in my inbox.

          • the future is female

            What’s your point? So what if I edited my post? The point still stands.

          • Pretty Polly

            Why did you edit your post and why did you deny doing so ?

          • the future is female

            Where did I deny doing so?

          • Pretty Polly

            Why did you edit your post ?

          • the future is female

            Stop mansplaining.

          • Pretty Polly

            Why did you remove your words..

            ‘I don’t give a sh*t about “Western civilisation”

          • Sargv

            > I’m not proud of the fact we colonised and enslaved half the world and created concentration camps, poison gas and nuclear bombs.

            Why? Would you rather be a slave? a prisoner? a war victim? Human history is “us VS. them”. You are alive only due to being born in a victors’ camp.

      • Bruce Atkinson

        “Fought and died?” Like in a real war? Get real. Women would never have the right to vote if men had not given it to them. Women have never had the power to take it for themselves.

        You have no idea that your radical feminist propaganda only hurts women.

      • Old Tommer

        This would be the same women who gave out white feathers to any man who didn’t go to war whilst they sat at home.

      • Sargv

        > No civilised society can contemplate disenfranchising women.

        Disenfranchising women – maybe. But disenfranchising welfare dependants (including one in four mothers, who are single and rely on the state)? Sure.

  • the future is female

    I’ve noticed that men are afraid of strong women.

    I recently started working out and doing CrossFit.

    My boyfriend didn’t seem to mind at first but the other day he implied he’s afraid of me becoming stronger than him. I was like “b*tch I already am”. I told he if he’s so bothered about it, he should start working out too instead of sitting on his scrawny a*se all day.

    Lol, boys and their egos.

    • JabbaPapa

      What a load of bloody irrational gibberish.

      And yes, clearly this is nothing more than yet another moronic sockpuppet account.

      • choccycobnobs

        I think we nowadays call it care in the community.

    • ChaucerChronicle

      Can you see why the posters mock you?

      You’ve not engaged on any of the substantive policy issues (and their implications).

      On an objective scale of measurement you have lost the debates on each issue you have raised.

      The only way you can win is not on the basis of powerful moral argument, but by the application of legal force ultimately supported by exercising the monopoly on State sanctioned ‘violence’ (through civil and criminal law penalties).

      What your national faction is driven to is to compel the ‘citizenry’ to disconnect (on the basis of your pansexual agenda) from reality.

      Do you people understand what that entails?

      It means, for example, parents being coerced to lie to their children that a man is a woman and a woman can be a man.

      That black is white and white is black.

      No nation on earth, has been able to sustain such monuments to lies.

      • choccycobnobs

        Very well put.

    • Sargv

      You boyfriend is not a man.

      She-Hulks are extremely repulsive. It’s not fear though, it’s disgust.

  • Sargv

    > To discriminate against anybody because of their sexual orientation is barbaric.

    Pedophilia is a sexual orientation.

    • Pretty Polly

      Sorry, I misunderstood your post. Got it now.

    • Reborn

      Indeed.
      In the 1970s leading Labour politicians supported the Pedophile Information Exchange.
      Ever trawling for new minorities to champion.
      They even obtained government grants for this vile organisation.
      The Thatcher government banned it & banged up some leading lights.
      The Labour supporters are still in Parliament.
      Unsurprisingly, bearing in mind who are Labour’s key constituencies & the
      inhabitants voting techniques.

    • Charitas Lydia

      Not really. It is a sinful choice.

  • Murti Bing

    Peter Tatchel is also on record as having said that when he first started campaigning for gay rights, the left – his fellow socialists – didn’t really support him, being then composed mainly of fairly traditional working class types. However, after a while, things began to change and he gained more support as the left gradually woke up to the fact that gay rights could be used as a weapon to destroy marriage.

    So it goes…

  • Roger Eldridge

    Please understand the destruction BY THE STATE of the institution of the Family founded on Marriage is not mindless. The State are the servants of the sovereign People but they hate it. They want to be the King’s court again and rule over us.

    The Family, being an institution is private and as every lawyer knows “The King’s writ does not run to the Family Home” so how can the socialist State [the State is socialist by nature] get to do what it wants – by eliminating the institution which then leaves everyone without privacy and as a vulnerable individual who must yield to the newly recrowned State.

    Strangely enough it is only through the introduction of VAT that has enabled the State to attempt such a thing. Prior to that the State’s financial power was finite. Raising income tax decreased incentives and production but with VAT all a State has to do is continuously increase consumption and it can for ever increase its empire with the money raised.

    Where a Family is dismembered each member becomes a consumer. Women make 90% of buying decisions. The State simply destroys Families and ensures women have control of the money. QED

  • JabbaPapa

    Here is what so many of today’s Westerners, politicians as well as others, fail to understand :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwi9Q9apHGI