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RFK Jr interviewed, Part 2: Covid and the obliteration of democracy


FOR me, the most authentic, interesting and inspiring politician of our times is without doubt Robert F Kennedy Jr. His ‘truth seeking’ has been regardless of the consequences for him and his career. His principle has taken him down a difficult and unorthodox path of confrontation with the establishment and, inevitably, to being censored, demonised and marginalised, the treatment typically meted out to dissenters, not least by his party of ‘birth’, so to speak, the Democrats.

What follows is the second set of edited extracts from an hour-long interview with him conducted by Oracle Films over a year ago in which he discusses the exploitation of Covid to obliterate democracy. You can read Part 1 here. 

SINCE the beginning of Covid, all of that project [the compromising and subversion by the rapacious Pharma industry of all major institutions – public health and media has been amped up to where it has really, I would say, obliterated democracy across the globe. And liberal democracy has been demolished. 

The Constitution – that’s not hyperbole – we’ve seen the United States, virtually the entire Bill . . . each of the Bill of Rights are systematically obliterated. We’ve got rid of freedom of speech, which is the most important, the First Amendment.

We closed the churches for years, that’s, you know, religious . . . you know, the separation of church and state, which is guaranteed by the First Amendment and religious freedoms. We obliterated . . . we demolished property rights by closing every business in our country, or most of the businesses in our country – a million businesses without due process, without just compensation. We got rid of jury trials for any company that says that it’s involved in countermeasures, no matter how reckless or negligent they are, no matter how toxic their ingredients, no matter how grievous your injury, you can’t sue them. We’ve gotten rid of the protections against warrantless searches and seizures through pervasive track and trace surveillance that’s now part of our lives. Our privacy rights are gone. Our medical privacy is gone. And we’ve gotten rid of due process of law. 

The mechanisms by which democracy was able to infiltrate government rulemaking have been just removed, have been excised. There are no public hearings. There are no published rule-makings, there’s no notice and comment rule-making. There is no environmental impact statement, no regulatory impact statement, no economic impacts, all those were part of rule-making. If you wanted to pass a rule, you had to publish it, you had to do these very public assessments where you laid out the science and rationale for the rule. You had to have public comment on that, and you had to have a public hearing. That’s all gone. And that’s what due process means, it’s all gone. 

Now there’s just one guy in our country – Tony Fauci. And in England, you know, Chris Whitty or Matt Hancock. And each country has its own little medical dictator. These tiny dictators in white lab coats who just have rules without any scientific justification, without any assessment of their economic or public health impacts. Are lockdowns good for public health? Or is putting the entire population, locking them in homes during a pandemic that spreads indoors, is that a bad thing? And what happens globally to people, who, you know, rely on supply chains for foods, for medicines? What happens when we defer medical treatment? What’s the impact on public health? What’s the impact on public health when you close schools for a year? These are devastating impacts. 

You know, we’ve seen our country, according to CDC [US Centers for Disease Control] data, one out of every four teenagers have contemplated suicide this year. The drug addiction and overdose rates have gone through the roof, alcoholism. Child abuse, on paper has disappeared. Why? Because child abuse is reported, almost all of it, by the schools. And you close the schools and you lock the child at home with the abusers for a year, you stop hearing about it. What happened to all those children? What is happening to them now? And, you know, we know even closing schools for a month has lifetime impacts on children, on their capacity to function later on in life socially and in every way that they need to fulfil their potential. And psychological impacts are also devastating.

 None of that was taken into account . . . there’s a war on the poor. In our country the death rate in neighbourhoods like my neighbourhood . . . if you have money, which I am lucky enough to have, the pandemic was not a big burden. You know, I could stay at home in a nice place and enjoy my family, but if you didn’t have money, this was a catastrophe, you know. And the death rate from Covid in, you know, in Bel-Air and Brentwood was one third of the death rate in Compton. And the people who were dying were black people. And it wasn’t . . . it’s not racial, because in Africa, black people were not dying – they had the lowest death rates in the world – but it was the pandemic response. 

We had a hundred million children around the world who were either killed from starvation or were permanently damaged because of malnutrition. It was, you know, all of this big bargain that the United States and the European nations made with the developing world back in the 90s, where we said to those countries, ‘If you globalise, if you plug yourself in, get rid of subsistence agriculture and adopt commodity agriculture, that we want you to plug your system into the globalisation, we will lift you out of poverty.’ 

And we broke that promise. We shut down those connections and those nations, the poor in those nations now have nowhere to turn. And it has been devastating to those countries, to the point those countries . . . this was really a war on the global poor. And we saw a $3.8trillion shift in wealth from working people to billionaires. We created 500 billionaires with this. It’s been the biggest engineered shift in wealth in history. And it’s really, you know, it has served the oligarchs, and it has punished the poor and the working people of the globe. This is a war on the poor . . .

The pandemic response in the United States and in most of Europe was exactly the inverse of what you would want to do if you wanted to stop a pandemic. You know, the Chinese did a lot of things that were probably horrible, but generally speaking, they were very successful in stopping the pandemic. And, you know, we need to learn from the things that are ethically acceptable to us, what they did right. And one of the things they did is they did what people have done throughout history during pandemics, which is you isolate the sick, not healthy. As soon as you showed a symptom, like a fever, and had a positive PCR test, you were immediately isolated and you were treated, you were given . . . they ended their pandemic in April of 2020. Right at the beginning. They only had a two-month pandemic. 

And they published, at the beginning of that month, a protocol for early treatment. And what was the early treatment? The number one thing was chloroquine, which is the cousin of hydroxychloroquine, which we all know works. They used antibiotics, anti-inflammatories, anticoagulants, steroids. And then a lot of Chinese herbs that would boost immune systems. And the death rate in China from this pandemic was, nationwide, three per million population. In the United States, 2,200 per million population. So 800 times, you know, roughly what the Chinese achieved. We did exactly the opposite. If somebody got sick, Tony Fauci’s protocol . . . Tony Fauci, still to this day, has not published an early treatment protocol. The only protocol is, ‘Go to the hospital when you’re about to die.’ If you were sick, you were told, ‘Go home until you’re so sick that you can’t breathe, and then come to hospital – we’ll put you on two things that are almost certain to kill you – a ventilator and remdesivir.’ 

Every time one of those people went home, it was a superspreader event – so they’re spreading it to their family and then they get sick, so they’re, you know, really shedding huge viral loads. And then, when they go to the hospital, it’s another superspreader event. They’re infecting the Uber driver or the ambulance driver, all the people who see them at the hospital. And it was designed almost to spread the disease and to make . . . to intensify the pandemic and to make it more deadly, other than that, and you know, we achieved that. The United States has 4.2 per cent of the global population; we had 14.5 per cent of the body count of the deaths in our country. Why does Tony Fauci still have a job? That is a mystery. It’s not because he managed the pandemic well.

[Note: Fauci stepped down on December 31, 2022, several months after this interview.]

Tomorrow: The billionaires who made even more money from Covid

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